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I made a custom lower fan shroud, as one does not exist for the stock =
tiger, fan shroud. I did smoke test with the car at idle and the air =
comes through the radiator down towards the ground and circles back =
through the radiator again. So essentially you're just recycling hot air =
from your own radiator. It works.=20
> On Jul 19, 2023, at 2:03 AM, Owain Lloyd <owain.lloyd@gmail.com> =
wrote:
>=20
> I think michael hit the nail on the head. first need to know is it =
overheating when stationary / moving slowly or at speed?
>=20
> a pusher fan will only help at very low speed or when stopped. and =
spal is the go to brand. still need the horn holes and gap between =
cross member and rad blocked. cardboard and zip ties does the trick =
quickly and can be replaced with a more permanent solution later if you =
want. also need a fan shroud.
>=20
> personally i've never needed the electric pusher fan because i have a =
small 13" flex fan on the water pump pulley. that creates enough pull =
through the radiator at idle.
>=20
> if its overheating at more than 30/40mph then its another problem =
entirely and there are a variety of other things to check.
>=20
> in my case its fuel boiling in the carb under certain conditions =
(slowing down after running fast in really high ambient temps above a =
particular altitude) rather than coolant temp which is the problem. =
there are a bunch of things i could do there, most importantly a carb =
heat shield, but i've only suffered from it once.
>=20
> one thing i've found very useful for debugging cooling issues in the =
tiger over the years is having a glass gano filter in the rad top hose. =
at least you can see how the coolant is circulating which helps with =
thermostat or water pump issues and if you're used to how it should =
look, even how blocked the radiator is.
>=20
>=20
> On Wed, Jul 19, 2023 at 7:41=E2=80=AFAM Jim B via Tigers =
>> I=E2=80=99ve been reading about cooling issues with tigers for more =
that a decade (much less than some reading this) blocking horn holes, =
pusher fans, and shrouds etc etc. Entire studies have been done on this =
issue. Just check STOA, CAT or any club site. All good reads! I think =
the first place to start is knowing what the actual engine team really =
is. We all know that the original temp guage can be off. The other thing =
is: as a dyed in the wool ford guy, 185 degrees is the optimal engine =
temp. But, Ford engines can get to 195-200 degrees easily and that is =
not necessarily a bad thing. Yes, I put a pusher in mine only because I =
had one. I=E2=80=99m not really sure is does anything. My original guage =
can show 225-230 on a hot day (humidity plays a bitg role) but never =
has pucked out fluid. The design of the should is an issue. It lets hot =
air from the engine compartment to get under the radiator. Many, many, =
=E2=80=98fixes=E2=80=99 that can be done. However, on a hot low humidity =
day.. well good luck. JMO
>>=20
>>> On Jul 18, 2023, at 8:40 PM, Allan Ballard <aballard@ix.netcom.com =
>>>=20
>>> The article includes several suggestions.
>>>=20
>>> One of them is to seal the missing section of the stock fan shroud =
at the bottom.
>>>=20
>>> A list member offered a piece he fabricated.
>>>=20
>>> I obtained one and here are a couple of pictures. I hope to fit it =
later this year.
>>>=20
>>> Even a few degrees of cooling will be worth the effort.
>>>=20
>>> Allan Ballard
>>> Mk1a Tiger
>>>=20
>>> <image0.jpeg><image1.jpeg>
>>>=20
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>=20
>>>> On Jul 18, 2023, at 10:57 PM, Jay Laifman <jay.laifman@gmail.com =
>>>>=20
>>>> =EF=BB=BF
>>>> Have you looked at this cooling suggestions? =
http://tigersunited.com/techtips/SteveLaifmanValance/pt-SteveLaifmanValanc=
e1.asp
>>>>=20
>>>> It works great in Southern California heat.
>>>>=20
>>>> On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 3:42=E2=80=AFPM Joe Brown =
>>>>> My Tiger can't keep up with this 100 degree weather in Texas. =
I've read through the article by Tiger Tom and Chuck King and I will =
make some of the suggested modifications. They listed two different =
pusher electric fans in the article but both of them are no longer =
available.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> So, has anybody recently installed a pusher fan? If so, what part =
numbers?
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Joe Brown
>>>>> _______________________________________________
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">I made a =
custom lower fan shroud, as one does not exist for the stock tiger, fan =
shroud. I did smoke test with the car at idle and the air comes through =
the radiator down towards the ground and circles back through the =
radiator again. So essentially you're just recycling hot air from your =
own radiator. It works. <br><div><br><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div>On Jul 19, 2023, at 2:03 AM, Owain Lloyd =
<owain.lloyd@gmail.com> wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div><meta charset=3D"UTF-8"><div =
dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: =
Times-Roman; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: =
none;">I think michael hit the nail on the head. first need to =
know is it overheating when stationary / moving slowly or at =
speed?<div><br></div><div>a pusher fan will only help at very low speed =
or when stopped. and spal is the go to brand. still =
need the horn holes and gap between cross member and rad blocked. =
cardboard and zip ties does the trick quickly and can be replaced with a =
more permanent solution later if you want. also need a fan =
shroud.<div><br></div><div>personally i've never needed the electric =
pusher fan because i have a small 13" flex fan on the water pump =
pulley. that creates enough pull through the radiator at =
idle.</div><div><br></div><div>if its overheating at more than =
30/40mph then its another problem entirely and there are a =
variety of other things to check.</div></div><div><br></div><div>in =
my case its fuel boiling in the carb under certain =
conditions (slowing down after running fast in really high ambient =
temps above a particular altitude) rather than coolant temp which is the =
problem. there are a bunch of things i could do there, most =
importantly a carb heat shield, but i've only suffered from it =
once.</div><div><br></div><div>one thing i've found very useful for =
debugging cooling issues in the tiger over the years is having a glass =
gano filter in the rad top hose. at least you can see how the =
coolant is circulating which helps with thermostat or water pump issues =
and if you're used to how it should look, even how blocked the radiator =
is.</div><div><br></div></div><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
font-family: Times-Roman; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; =
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normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none;"><div class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"caret-color: =
rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Times-Roman; font-size: 18px; font-style: =
normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: =
normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; =
white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none;"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, =
Jul 19, 2023 at 7:41=E2=80=AFAM Jim B via Tigers <<a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@autox.team.net</a>> =
wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0px =
0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; =
border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div><font =
size=3D"4">I=E2=80=99ve been reading about cooling issues with =
tigers for more that a decade (much less than some reading this) =
blocking horn holes, pusher fans, and shrouds etc etc. Entire studies =
have been done on this issue. Just check STOA, CAT or any club =
site. All good reads! I think the first place to start is knowing =
what the actual engine team really is. We all know that the =
original temp guage can be off. The other thing is: as a dyed in the =
wool ford guy, 185 degrees is the optimal engine temp. But, Ford engines =
can get to 195-200 degrees easily and that is not necessarily a bad =
thing. Yes, I put a pusher in mine only because I had one. I=E2=80=99m =
not really sure is does anything. My original guage can show =
225-230 on a hot day (humidity plays a bitg role) but never has =
pucked out fluid. The design of the should is an issue. It lets hot =
air from the engine compartment to get under the radiator. Many, many, =
=E2=80=98fixes=E2=80=99 that can be done. However, on a hot low =
humidity day.. well good luck. JMO</font><div><div><br><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div>On Jul 18, 2023, at 8:40 PM, Allan Ballard <<a =
href=3D"mailto:aballard@ix.netcom.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">aballard@ix.netcom.com</a>> =
wrote:</div><br><div><span style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: =
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; =
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline;">The article =
includes several suggestions.</span><div style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><br></div><div =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration: none;">One of them is to =
seal the missing section of the stock fan shroud at the =
bottom.</div><div style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; =
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
text-decoration: none;"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; =
font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; =
font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration: none;">A list member offered a piece =
he fabricated.</div><div style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: =
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; =
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
text-decoration: none;"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; =
font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; =
font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration: none;">I obtained one and here are a =
couple of pictures. I hope to fit it later this year.</div><div =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; =
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font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration: none;">Even a few degrees of =
cooling will be worth the effort.</div><div style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
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Ballard</div><div style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; =
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id=3D"cid:1896cb123c143c689202"><image1.jpeg></span><br><br><div =
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href=3D"mailto:jay.laifman@gmail.com"; =
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dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"ltr">Have you looked at this cooling =
suggestions? <a =
href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/SteveLaifmanValance/pt-SteveLaifm=
anValance1.asp" =
target=3D"_blank">http://tigersunited.com/techtips/SteveLaifmanValance/pt-=
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dir=3D"ltr">My Tiger can't keep up with this 100 degree weather in =
Texas. I've read through the article by Tiger Tom and Chuck King =
and I will make some of the suggested modifications. They listed =
two different pusher electric fans in the article but both of them are =
no longer available.<div><br></div><div>So, has anybody recently =
installed a pusher fan? If so, what part =
numbers?</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Joe =
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