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To: Joe Brown <jbbrown1980@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger shocks
From: LARRY PAULICK via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
Date: Tue, 30 May 2023 14:48:04 -0400
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Back in the 90=E2=80=99s I got mine from Dale A, competition rate of =
about 443ppi

> On May 30, 2023, at 12:36 PM, Joe Brown <jbbrown1980@gmail.com> wrote:
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> I googled "leaf spring re-arching" and found an old-school place in =
San Antonio (Ace Spring Service, about 1.5 hours from me).  They mostly =
deal with heavy trucks but they can handle any leaf spring.  I told them =
I needed to lift the back of the car about 1.5" and they basically =
separated the leaves and put them in a big press.  My old springs are =
liable to start sagging again in a few years because of the old metal.  =
I asked the guy at Ace about re-tempering the springs and they don't do =
that anymore.  He said that back in the days before they had the more =
modern giant presses they used to have a forge and they would heat up =
the metal and then beat it into shape with sledge hammers. =20
>=20
> The only source I've found for new leaf springs are some of the =
suppliers in the UK.   Tom Hall doesn't supply them anymore.  I would =
like to know if anybody knows of a US supplier.
>=20
> Thanks,
> Joe Brown
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> On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 10:39=E2=80=AFAM Jay Laifman =
>> Where and how did you get the rear springs de-arched?  I'd like to =
lower my rear springs on the Alpine a little.
>>=20
>> On Mon, May 29, 2023 at 1:03=E2=80=AFPM Joe Brown =
>>> I think I started this thread a few weeks ago.  My car started to =
bottom out and I finally figured out that I had two blown shocks and my =
leaf springs were sagging.  I got the springs re-arched and started =
looking for shocks.  I have a car show coming up this weekend, so time =
was a factor.  I looked at Koni and Spax but the lead times were way too =
long. So I decided to go with KYB.  Looking through the different forums =
I saw different part numbers and I finally settled on part number  =
KG5562 for the rears and KG4616 for the fronts. The rear shocks were a =
perfect fit.  On the front shocks I needed to press out the steel =
bushing spacer on the old shocks and insert them into the KYBs.  Super =
easy and they also fit really well.  The whole car now sits a little =
higher and the handling is a million times better. =20
>>>=20
>>> Thanks for everybody's input.
>>>=20
>>> Thanks,
>>> Joe Brown=20
>>>=20
>>> On Thu, May 25, 2023 at 9:11=E2=80=AFPM Lionel Bohrer =
>>>> The Spax catalog in the classic section shows a listing for the =
Sunbeam Tiger 64-68, in the $150 range per shock front and rear.  They =
appear to be single adjustable so rebound and compression change =
together.
>>>>=20
>>>> =20
>>>>=20
>>>> I got Spax shocks for my car back in the 60=E2=80=99s.  Replaced a =
set of Koni shocks.  Didn=E2=80=99t like the damping characteristics =
quite as well, but the ability to adjust on the car was revolutionary.  =
Soften up, drive to an autocross or cross country, get to the event, =
turn them up and compete, post event set down for the street and drive =
home.  Many competition cars weren=E2=80=99t trailered in those years.  =
A great ability to accommodate street comfort and autocross performance. =
 Or to adjust to your individual preferences.  My set are still on the =
car, which exited regular competition in the late 90=E2=80=99s, but my =
two SCCA autocross national championships in 1974 and 1975 were with the =
Spax shocks.  Would be worth exploring if you need shocks.  They also =
might custom make a set of double adjustable shocks if you were =
interested.
>>>>=20
>>>> =20
>>>>=20
>>>> Bud Bohrer
>>>>=20
>>>> =20
>>>>=20
>>>> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986> =
for Windows
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>>>> =20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">Back in the =
90=E2=80=99s I got mine from Dale A, competition rate of about =
443ppi<br><div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>On May 30, 2023, at =
12:36 PM, Joe Brown &lt;jbbrown1980@gmail.com&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">I googled =
"leaf spring re-arching" and found an old-school place in San Antonio =
(Ace Spring Service, about 1.5 hours from me).&nbsp; They mostly deal =
with heavy trucks but they can handle any leaf spring.&nbsp; I told them =
I needed to lift the back of the car about 1.5" and they basically =
separated the leaves and put them in a big press.&nbsp; My old springs =
are liable to start sagging again in a few years because of the old =
metal.&nbsp; I asked the guy at Ace about re-tempering the springs and =
they don't do that anymore.&nbsp; He said that back in the days before =
they had the more modern giant presses they used to have a forge and =
they would heat up the metal and then beat it into shape with sledge =
hammers.&nbsp;&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>The only source I've found for =
new leaf springs are some of the suppliers in the UK.&nbsp; &nbsp;Tom =
Hall doesn't supply them anymore.&nbsp; I would like to know if anybody =
knows of a US supplier.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Joe =
Brown</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 10:39=E2=80=AFAM Jay =
Laifman &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jay.laifman@gmail.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">jay.laifman@gmail.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px =
0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid =
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Where and how did =
you get the rear springs de-arched?&nbsp; I'd like to lower my rear =
springs on the Alpine a little.</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div =
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, May 29, 2023 at 1:03=E2=80=AFPM =
Joe Brown &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jbbrown1980@gmail.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">jbbrown1980@gmail.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px =
0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid =
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">I think I started =
this thread a few weeks ago.&nbsp; My car started to bottom out and I =
finally figured out that I had two blown shocks and my leaf&nbsp;springs =
were sagging.&nbsp; I got the springs re-arched and started looking for =
shocks.<font face=3D"times new roman, serif">&nbsp;</font><font =
face=3D"arial, sans-serif"> I have a car show coming up this weekend, so =
time was a factor.&nbsp; I looked at Koni and Spax but the lead times =
were way too long. So I decided to go with KYB.&nbsp; Looking through =
the different forums I saw different part numbers and I finally settled =
on part number&nbsp; KG5562 for the rears and KG4616 for the fronts. The =
rear shocks were a perfect fit.&nbsp; On the front shocks I needed to =
press out the steel bushing spacer on the old shocks and insert them =
into the KYBs.&nbsp; Super easy and they also fit really well.&nbsp; The =
whole car now sits a little higher and the handling is a million times =
better.&nbsp;&nbsp;</font><div><font face=3D"arial, =
sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font face=3D"arial, =
sans-serif">Thanks for everybody's input.</font></div><div><font =
face=3D"arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font face=3D"arial, =
sans-serif">Thanks,</font></div><div><font face=3D"arial, =
sans-serif">Joe Brown&nbsp;</font></div></div><br><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, May =
25, 2023 at 9:11=E2=80=AFPM Lionel Bohrer &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:lcbohrer@comcast.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">lcbohrer@comcast.net</a>&gt; =
wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px =
0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid =
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div lang=3D"EN-US"><div><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal">The Spax catalog in the classic section shows a =
listing for the Sunbeam Tiger 64-68, in the $150 range per shock front =
and rear.&nbsp; They appear to be single adjustable so rebound and =
compression change together.</p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I got =
Spax shocks for my car back in the 60=E2=80=99s.&nbsp; Replaced a set of =
Koni shocks.&nbsp; Didn=E2=80=99t like the damping characteristics quite =
as well, but the ability to adjust on the car was revolutionary.&nbsp; =
Soften up, drive to an autocross or cross country, get to the event, =
turn them up and compete, post event set down for the street and drive =
home.&nbsp; Many competition cars weren=E2=80=99t trailered in those =
years.&nbsp; A great ability to accommodate street comfort and autocross =
performance.&nbsp; Or to adjust to your individual preferences.&nbsp; My =
set are still on the car, which exited regular competition in the late =
90=E2=80=99s, but my two SCCA autocross national championships in 1974 =
and 1975 were with the Spax shocks.&nbsp; Would be worth exploring if =
you need shocks.&nbsp; They also might custom make a set of double =
adjustable shocks if you were interested.</p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Bud =
Bohrer</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p><p =
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