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Re: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 15, Issue 103

To: Joel Martin <jmartiniii@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 15, Issue 103
From: Joe Brown <jbbrown1980@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2022 17:19:58 -0600
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If the plunger is too long it will not retract enough to open the
bleed-back hole in the master cylinder.  I had this problem when I
installed a new master cylinder that had a too long plunger.  It seemed to
work okay until I got a few blocks from home and it locked up.  The front
brakes got hot and cooked the rubber pieces and I had to rebuild
everything.  It's fun restoring a car when you don't know what you are
doing.

On Sat, Feb 19, 2022 at 4:39 PM Joel Martin via Tigers <
tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:

> Now I am confused.  Take out circle clip , insert plunger, then washer,
> reinsert  circle clip, dust boot, return spring, 3/4 cup.  Place u end of
> plunger in brake pedal, insert Clovis pin, insert cotter.
>
> Brakes are now engaged and locked up with no pedal being applied.
>
> What is going on?  Ideas?
>
> Thanks
>
> On Thursday, February 17, 2022, 04:28:45 PM EST, <
> tigers-request@autox.team.net> wrote:
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>   1. Re: Tigers Digest, Vol 15, Issue 89 (Ron Fraser)
>   2. Re: Tigers Digest, Vol 15, Issue 89 (GARY WINBLAD)
>
>
> https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=3Dgirling+master+brake+repair+youtub=
e&&view=3Ddetail&mid=3DDF31F3F9694CCB04558EDF31F3F9694CCB04558E&&FORM=3DVRD=
GAR&ru=3D%2Fvideos%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dgirling%2520master%2520brake%2520repair%2=
520youtube%26%26FORM%3DVDVVXX
>
>
>
>
>
> Here is a YouTube that might help you understand the assembly.
>
> The disc on the rod goes into the bore then the circlip fits into the bor=
e
> holding everything in.
>
> The hardest part is getting a new rubber boot on without splitting it
> which rarely happens.
>
>
>
> Ron Fraser
>
>
>
> *From:* Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Joel Martin
> via Tigers
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 17, 2022 1:01 PM
> *To:* Tiger List Serve <tigers@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 15, Issue 89
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thursday, February 17, 2022, 05:36:52 AM EST, Joel Martin <
> jmartiniii@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hello all.
>
>
>
> I pulled apart the brake actuator today and the whole thing just fell out
> of the rubber boot?  Rubber boot was split.  There is a circle clip up ne=
xt
> to the master cylinder plunger still in place.
>
>
>
> Here is a picture of my brake setup which does not match the picture belo=
w
> from the workshop manual.
>
>
>
> My question:  How is the brake actuating rod retained in the master
> cylinder so it will not come out?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Monday, February 14, 2022, 08:45:16 PM EST, <
> tigers-request@autox.team.net> wrote:
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>   1. Brake Pedal (Joel Martin)
>   2. Re: Brake Pedal (Jay)
>   3. Re: Brake Pedal (Will Seay)
>
> 1966 Tiger MK 1A
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> There are so many oddities here.  First, at one end, the plunger should
>  have a disc at the end, with a circlip that holds it in.  That rubber bo=
ot
> would likely hold in the disc, even if the circlip broke.  So since it
> =E2=80=9Ccame out=E2=80=9D of the rubber, it sounds like the center of th=
e disc is some how
> flawed.  But FWIW, I can=E2=80=99t imagine how that would happen unless s=
omething
> was quite odd in the assembly.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Feb 14, 2022, at 4:28 PM, Joel Martin via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.ne=
t>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> 1966 Tiger MK 1A
>
>
>
> I had a little scare the other day backing out of the DMV parking lot.  N=
o
> Brakes.  Discovered that the brake plunger had come out of the rubber
> sleeve going into the master cylinder.
>
>
>
> The only thing that could have happened is when I got out, my foot pulled
> the pedal back towards the interior and this pulled the plunger out.
>
>
>
> It only had the spring, plunger and rubber plug to hold the plunger into
> the master cylinder.
>
>
>
> Is there suppose to be something else to hold the plunger in place?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
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> Joel,
>
> Your master cylinder was apparently assembled without the circlip.  See #=
2
> in the attached from the workshop manual.
>
>
>
> Will - 382001570
> Tigers@embarqmail.com
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 7:28 PM Joel Martin via Tigers <
> tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> 1966 Tiger MK 1A
>
>
>
> I had a little scare the other day backing out of the DMV parking lot.  N=
o
> Brakes.  Discovered that the brake plunger had come out of the rubber
> sleeve going into the master cylinder.
>
>
>
> The only thing that could have happened is when I got out, my foot pulled
> the pedal back towards the interior and this pulled the plunger out.
>
>
>
> It only had the spring, plunger and rubber plug to hold the plunger into
> the master cylinder.
>
>
>
> Is there suppose to be something else to hold the plunger in place?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
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> Yup, it was assembled WRONG.
> Yes, it appears to be assembled according to the photo that was posted
> from the
> shop manual... which is wrong.
>
> The circlip must retain the washer that is captive on the pushrod.
> Pushrod should NOT
> fall out loose from the master cylinder assembly.
>
> Hopefully you did not sustain any injury or damage to your Tiger.
> Gary
>
>
> On 02/17/2022 1:35 PM Jay <jay.laifman@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> That totally matches what I would expect to see.  That round disc should
> have been on the inside of the clip.  So either it was not assembled that
> way, which is odd.  Or perhaps the disk is a smaller OD than the ID of th=
e
> MC and the clip.
>
> On Feb 17, 2022, at 12:01 PM, Joel Martin via Tigers <
> tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> On Thursday, February 17, 2022, 05:36:52 AM EST, Joel Martin <
> jmartiniii@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Hello all.
>
> I pulled apart the brake actuator today and the whole thing just fell out
> of the rubber boot?  Rubber boot was split.  There is a circle clip up ne=
xt
> to the master cylinder plunger still in place.
>
> Here is a picture of my brake setup which does not match the picture belo=
w
> from the workshop manual.
>
> My question:  How is the brake actuating rod retained in the master
> cylinder so it will not come out?
>
> <My_Brake_plunger.jpg>
>
>
> On Monday, February 14, 2022, 08:45:16 PM EST, <
> tigers-request@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
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> Today's Topics:
>
>   1. Brake Pedal (Joel Martin)
>   2. Re: Brake Pedal (Jay)
>   3. Re: Brake Pedal (Will Seay)
> 1966 Tiger MK 1A
>
>
> Thanks
> There are so many oddities here.  First, at one end, the plunger should
>  have a disc at the end, with a circlip that holds it in.  That rubber bo=
ot
> would likely hold in the disc, even if the circlip broke.  So since it
> =E2=80=9Ccame out=E2=80=9D of the rubber, it sounds like the center of th=
e disc is some how
> flawed.  But FWIW, I can=E2=80=99t imagine how that would happen unless s=
omething
> was quite odd in the assembly.
>
>
>
> On Feb 14, 2022, at 4:28 PM, Joel Martin via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.ne=
t>
> wrote:
>
> 1966 Tiger MK 1A
>
> I had a little scare the other day backing out of the DMV parking lot.  N=
o
> Brakes.  Discovered that the brake plunger had come out of the rubber
> sleeve going into the master cylinder.
>
> The only thing that could have happened is when I got out, my foot pulled
> the pedal back towards the interior and this pulled the plunger out.
>
> It only had the spring, plunger and rubber plug to hold the plunger into
> the master cylinder.
>
> Is there suppose to be something else to hold the plunger in place?
>
> Thanks
> _______________________________________________
>
> tigers@autox.team.net
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>
> Joel,
> Your master cylinder was apparently assembled without the circlip.  See #=
2
> in the attached from the workshop manual.
>
> Will - 382001570
> Tigers@embarqmail.com
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 7:28 PM Joel Martin via Tigers <
> tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> 1966 Tiger MK 1A
>
> I had a little scare the other day backing out of the DMV parking lot.  N=
o
> Brakes.  Discovered that the brake plunger had come out of the rubber
> sleeve going into the master cylinder.
>
> The only thing that could have happened is when I got out, my foot pulled
> the pedal back towards the interior and this pulled the plunger out.
>
> It only had the spring, plunger and rubber plug to hold the plunger into
> the master cylinder.
>
> Is there suppose to be something else to hold the plunger in place?
>
> Thanks
> _______________________________________________
>
> tigers@autox.team.net
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<div dir=3D"ltr">If the plunger is too long it will not retract enough to o=
pen the bleed-back hole in the master cylinder.=C2=A0 I had this problem wh=
en I installed a new master cylinder that had a too long plunger.=C2=A0 It =
seemed to work okay until I got a few blocks from home and it locked up.=C2=
=A0 The front brakes got hot and cooked the rubber pieces and I had to rebu=
ild everything.=C2=A0 It&#39;s fun restoring a car when you don&#39;t know =
what you are doing.</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" cl=
ass=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Feb 19, 2022 at 4:39 PM Joel Martin via Tigers &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt; w=
rote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0p=
x 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div =
style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;=
font-size:16px"><div></div>
        <div>Now I am confused.=C2=A0 Take out circle clip , insert plunger=
, then washer, reinsert =C2=A0circle clip, dust boot, return spring, 3/4 cu=
p.=C2=A0 Place u end of plunger in brake pedal, insert Clovis pin, insert c=
otter.</div><div><br></div><div>Brakes are now engaged and locked up with n=
o pedal being applied.</div><div><br></div><div>What is going on?=C2=A0 Ide=
as?</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks</div><div><br></div>
       =20
        <div id=3D"gmail-m_-7052236698628692565ydp62138807yahoo_quoted_5330=
744738">
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                    On Thursday, February 17, 2022, 04:28:45 PM EST,  &lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:tigers-request@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">tigers-re=
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Re: Contents of Tigers digest...&quot;<br></div>Today&#39;s Topics:<br><br>=
=C2=A0  1. Re: Tigers Digest, Vol 15, Issue 89 (Ron Fraser)<br>=C2=A0  2. R=
e: Tigers Digest, Vol 15, Issue 89 (GARY WINBLAD)<br><div id=3D"gmail-m_-70=
52236698628692565ydp62138807ymsg44263"><div id=3D"gmail-m_-7052236698628692=
565ydp62138807yiv0125515766"><div><div><p><a href=3D"https://www.bing.com/v=
ideos/search?q=3Dgirling+master+brake+repair+youtube&amp;&amp;view=3Ddetail=
&amp;mid=3DDF31F3F9694CCB04558EDF31F3F9694CCB04558E&amp;&amp;FORM=3DVRDGAR&=
amp;ru=3D%2Fvideos%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dgirling%2520master%2520brake%2520repair%2=
520youtube%26%26FORM%3DVDVVXX" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">https://w=
ww.bing.com/videos/search?q=3Dgirling+master+brake+repair+youtube&amp;&amp;=
view=3Ddetail&amp;mid=3DDF31F3F9694CCB04558EDF31F3F9694CCB04558E&amp;&amp;F=
ORM=3DVRDGAR&amp;ru=3D%2Fvideos%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dgirling%2520master%2520brake=
%2520repair%2520youtube%26%26FORM%3DVDVVXX</a></p><p> =C2=A0</p><p> =C2=A0<=
/p><p>Here is a YouTube that might help you understand the assembly.</p><p>=
The disc on the rod goes into the bore then the circlip fits into the bore =
holding everything in.</p><p>The hardest part is getting a new rubber boot =
on without splitting it which rarely happens.</p><p> =C2=A0</p><p>Ron Frase=
r </p><p> =C2=A0</p><div><div style=3D"border-right:none;border-bottom:none=
;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in=
"><p><b>From:</b> Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.ne=
t" target=3D"_blank">tigers-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt; <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Joel Martin via Tigers<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 17, 2022 1:01=
 PM<br><b>To:</b> Tiger List Serve &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.=
net" target=3D"_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re:=
 [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 15, Issue 89</p></div></div><p> =C2=A0</p><div=
><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Garamond,serif"> =C2=A0<=
/span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Garamond,=
serif"> =C2=A0</span></p></div></div><div id=3D"gmail-m_-705223669862869256=
5ydp62138807yiv0125515766ydp9d68e9cyahoo_quoted_5448102710"><div><div><p><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,4=
0,42)">On Thursday, February 17, 2022, 05:36:52 AM EST, Joel Martin &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:jmartiniii@yahoo.com"; rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">jma=
rtiniii@yahoo.com</a>&gt; wrote: </span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"> =C2=A0<=
/span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica=
,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"> =C2=A0</span></p></div><div><div id=3D"gm=
ail-m_-7052236698628692565ydp62138807yiv0125515766ydp9d68e9cyiv4866135215">=
<div id=3D"gmail-m_-7052236698628692565ydp62138807yiv0125515766ydp9d68e9cyi=
v4866135215yqtfd71559"><div><div><div><div><p style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt">=
<span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38=
,40,42)"> =C2=A0</span></p></div><div><div id=3D"gmail-m_-70522366986286925=
65ydp62138807yiv0125515766ydp9d68e9cyiv4866135215ydp4386103dyiv2504392080">=
<div><div><div><div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helve=
tica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">Hello all.</span></p></div><div><p><sp=
an style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40=
,42)"> =C2=A0</span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-fa=
mily:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">I pulled apart the brake act=
uator today and the whole thing just fell out of the rubber boot?=C2=A0 Rub=
ber boot was split.=C2=A0 There is a circle clip up next to the master cyli=
nder plunger still in place.</span></p></div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10=
pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"> =C2=A0</span></p>=
</div><div id=3D"gmail-m_-7052236698628692565ydp62138807yiv0125515766ydp9d6=
8e9cyiv4866135215ydp4386103dyiv2504392080yqt20913"><div><div id=3D"gmail-m_=
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03dyiv2504392080ydpf1fea175yiv7324654534"><div><div><div><p><span style=3D"=
font-size:12pt;font-family:Garamond,serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">Here is a pi=
cture of my brake setup which does not match the picture below from the wor=
kshop manual.</span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-fa=
mily:Garamond,serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"> =C2=A0</span></p></div><div><p><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Garamond,serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"=
>My question:=C2=A0 How is the brake actuating rod retained in the master c=
ylinder so it will not come out?</span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:12pt;font-family:Garamond,serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"> =C2=A0</span><=
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><p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rg=
b(38,40,42)">Today&#39;s Topics:<br><br>=C2=A0 1. Brake Pedal (Joel Martin)=
<br>=C2=A0 2. Re: Brake Pedal (Jay)<br>=C2=A0 3. Re: Brake Pedal (Will Seay=
)</span></p><div id=3D"gmail-m_-7052236698628692565ydp62138807yiv0125515766=
ydp9d68e9cyiv4866135215ydp4386103dyiv2504392080ydpf1fea175yiv7324654534ydp1=
f66bfb7ymsg05745"><div id=3D"gmail-m_-7052236698628692565ydp62138807yiv0125=
515766ydp9d68e9cyiv4866135215ydp4386103dyiv2504392080ydpf1fea175yiv73246545=
34ydp1f66bfb7yiv7277777775"><div><div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:12pt=
;font-family:Garamond,serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">1966 Tiger MK 1A</span></p=
></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Garamond,serif;col=
or:rgb(38,40,42)"> =C2=A0</span></p></div><p><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;=
font-family:Garamond,serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"> =C2=A0</span></p><div><p><=
span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Garamond,serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)=
">Thanks</span></p></div></div></div></div></div><div id=3D"gmail-m_-705223=
6698628692565ydp62138807yiv0125515766ydp9d68e9cyiv4866135215ydp4386103dyiv2=
504392080ydpf1fea175yiv7324654534ydp1f66bfb7ymsg74033"><div id=3D"gmail-m_-=
7052236698628692565ydp62138807yiv0125515766ydp9d68e9cyiv4866135215ydp438610=
3dyiv2504392080ydpf1fea175yiv7324654534ydp1f66bfb7yiv7277777775"><div><p><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,4=
0,42)">There are so many oddities here.=C2=A0 First, at one end, the plunge=
r should =C2=A0have a disc at the end, with a circlip that holds it in.=C2=
=A0 That rubber boot would likely hold in the disc, even if the circlip bro=
ke.=C2=A0 So since it =E2=80=9Ccame out=E2=80=9D of the rubber, it sounds l=
ike the center of the disc is some how flawed.=C2=A0 But FWIW, I can=E2=80=
=99t imagine how that would happen unless something was quite odd in the as=
sembly.</span></p><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helveti=
ca,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"> =C2=A0</span></p></div><div><p><span st=
yle=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"=
> =C2=A0</span></p><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvet=
ica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><br><br></span></p><blockquote style=3D=
"margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;fo=
nt-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">On Feb 14, 2022, at 4:2=
8 PM, Joel Martin via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; r=
el=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:</spa=
n></p></div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-ser=
if;color:rgb(38,40,42)"> =C2=A0</span></p><div><div><div><div><p><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Garamond,serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">1966 Ti=
ger MK 1A</span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family=
:Garamond,serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"> =C2=A0</span></p></div><div><p><span =
style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Garamond,serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">I h=
ad a little scare the other day backing out of the DMV parking lot.=C2=A0 N=
o Brakes.=C2=A0 Discovered that the brake plunger had come out of the rubbe=
r sleeve going into the master cylinder.</span></p></div><div><p><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Garamond,serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"> =C2=A0=
</span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Garamond=
,serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">The only thing that could have happened is when=
 I got out, my foot pulled the pedal back towards the interior and this pul=
led the plunger out.</span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;=
font-family:Garamond,serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"> =C2=A0</span></p></div><di=
v><p><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Garamond,serif;color:rgb(38,=
40,42)">It only had the spring, plunger and rubber plug to hold the plunger=
 into the master cylinder.</span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size=
:12pt;font-family:Garamond,serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"> =C2=A0</span></p></d=
iv><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Garamond,serif;color:r=
gb(38,40,42)">Is there suppose to be something else to hold the plunger in =
place?</span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Ga=
ramond,serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"> =C2=A0</span></p></div><div><p><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Garamond,serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">Thanks=
</span></p></div></div></div><p style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt"><span style=3D=
"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">_____=
__________________________________________<br><br><a href=3D"mailto:tigers@=
autox.team.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a=
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/p></div></blockquote></div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:He=
lvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"> =C2=A0</span></p></div></div></div=
></div><div id=3D"gmail-m_-7052236698628692565ydp62138807yiv0125515766ydp9d=
68e9cyiv4866135215ydp4386103dyiv2504392080ydpf1fea175yiv7324654534ydp1f66bf=
b7ymsg71282"><div id=3D"gmail-m_-7052236698628692565ydp62138807yiv012551576=
6ydp9d68e9cyiv4866135215ydp4386103dyiv2504392080ydpf1fea175yiv7324654534ydp=
1f66bfb7yiv7277777775"><div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-fami=
ly:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">Joel,</span></p></div><div><p>=
<span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38=
,40,42)">Your master cylinder was apparently assembled without the circlip.=
=C2=A0 See #2 in the attached from the workshop manual.</span></p></div><di=
v><p><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:r=
gb(38,40,42)"> =C2=A0</span></p></div><div><div><div><p><span style=3D"font=
-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">Will - 382=
001570 <br><a href=3D"mailto:Tigers@embarqmail.com"; rel=3D"nofollow" target=
=3D"_blank">Tigers@embarqmail.com</a></span></p></div></div></div><p><span =
style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42=
)"> =C2=A0</span></p></div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Hel=
vetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"> =C2=A0</span></p><div><div><p><span=
 style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,4=
2)">On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 7:28 PM Joel Martin via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:tigers@autox.team.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">tigers@auto=
x.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:</span></p></div><blockquote style=3D"border-top:n=
one;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,=
204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><div>=
<div><p><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Garamond,serif;color:rgb(=
38,40,42)">1966 Tiger MK 1A</span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:12pt;font-family:Garamond,serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"> =C2=A0</span></p></=
div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Garamond,serif;color:=
rgb(38,40,42)">I had a little scare the other day backing out of the DMV pa=
rking lot.=C2=A0 No Brakes.=C2=A0 Discovered that the brake plunger had com=
e out of the rubber sleeve going into the master cylinder.</span></p></div>=
<div><p><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Garamond,serif;color:rgb(=
38,40,42)"> =C2=A0</span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;fo=
nt-family:Garamond,serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">The only thing that could hav=
e happened is when I got out, my foot pulled the pedal back towards the int=
erior and this pulled the plunger out.</span></p></div><div><p><span style=
=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Garamond,serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"> =C2=A0<=
/span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Garamond,=
serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">It only had the spring, plunger and rubber plug =
to hold the plunger into the master cylinder.</span></p></div><div><p><span=
 style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Garamond,serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"> =
=C2=A0</span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Ga=
ramond,serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">Is there suppose to be something else to =
hold the plunger in place?</span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size=
:12pt;font-family:Garamond,serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"> =C2=A0</span></p></d=
iv><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Garamond,serif;color:r=
gb(38,40,42)">Thanks</span></p></div></div></div><p style=3D"margin-bottom:=
12pt"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:=
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   Yup, it was assembled WRONG.
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   Yes, it appears to be assembled according to the photo that was posted f=
rom the
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   shop manual... which is wrong.
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   The circlip must retain the washer that is captive on the pushrod.=C2=A0=
 Pushrod should NOT
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   fall out loose from the master cylinder assembly.
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   Hopefully you did not sustain any injury or damage to your Tiger.
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   Gary
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    On 02/17/2022 1:35 PM Jay &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jay.laifman@gmail.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">jay.laifman@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:
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   </div>That totally matches what I would expect to see.=C2=A0 That round =
disc should have been on the inside of the clip.=C2=A0 So either it was not=
 assembled that way, which is odd.=C2=A0 Or perhaps the disk is a smaller O=
D than the ID of the MC and the clip.
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    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
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      On Feb 17, 2022, at 12:01 PM, Joel Martin via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:tigers@autox.team.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">tigers@auto=
x.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:
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          On Thursday, February 17, 2022, 05:36:52 AM EST, Joel Martin &lt;=
<a href=3D"mailto:jmartiniii@yahoo.com"; rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">=
jmartiniii@yahoo.com</a>&gt; wrote:
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                      I pulled apart the brake actuator today and the whole=
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                          My question:=C2=A0 How is the brake actuating rod=
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                            <br clear=3D"none">=C2=A0 1. Brake Pedal (Joel =
Martin)
                            <br clear=3D"none">=C2=A0 2. Re: Brake Pedal (J=
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                                 1966 Tiger MK 1A
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                               There are so many oddities here.=C2=A0 First=
, at one end, the plunger should =C2=A0have a disc at the end, with a circl=
ip that holds it in.=C2=A0 That rubber boot would likely hold in the disc, =
even if the circlip broke.=C2=A0 So since it =E2=80=9Ccame out=E2=80=9D of =
the rubber, it sounds like the center of the disc is some how flawed.=C2=A0=
 But FWIW, I can=E2=80=99t imagine how that would happen unless something w=
as quite odd in the assembly.
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                                   On Feb 14, 2022, at 4:28 PM, Joel Martin=
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                                      1966 Tiger MK 1A
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                                      I had a little scare the other day ba=
cking out of the DMV parking lot.=C2=A0 No Brakes.=C2=A0 Discovered that th=
e brake plunger had come out of the rubber sleeve going into the master cyl=
inder.
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                                      The only thing that could have happen=
ed is when I got out, my foot pulled the pedal back towards the interior an=
d this pulled the plunger out.
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                                      It only had the spring, plunger and r=
ubber plug to hold the plunger into the master cylinder.
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                                      Is there suppose to be something else=
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                                Joel,
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                                Your master cylinder was apparently assembl=
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                                   1966 Tiger MK 1A
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                                   I had a little scare the other day backi=
ng out of the DMV parking lot.=C2=A0 No Brakes.=C2=A0 Discovered that the b=
rake plunger had come out of the rubber sleeve going into the master cylind=
er.
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                                   The only thing that could have happened =
is when I got out, my foot pulled the pedal back towards the interior and t=
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                                   It only had the spring, plunger and rubb=
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                                   Is there suppose to be something else to=
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