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Re: [Tigers] back to the battery wood packers

To: "'Ron Fraser'" <rfraser@bluefrog.com>, "'Jay'" <jay.laifman@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] back to the battery wood packers
From: Larry Mayfield via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2021 13:52:34 -0700
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I think it was simpler than anyone has brought up. The car was founded =
on the S4 and S5 Alpines which had the bat box under the parcel shelf =
(aka rear seat). And the trunk floor was made to a stamping drawing and =
if it needed to be done differently a new set of dies would have had to =
have been made ($$$$). Batteries need to sit flat and so a plastic =
(nylon I think). I believe that originally the rear mounted tray fit the =
lip on the fame side. That would  have given the tray a side mount under =
as well. Bu that use in the position as mentioned below required that it =
be spaced out a tad. Ok, the skinny long piece of wood behind the tray =
maintains side clearance for a few pennies. But that left the inside of =
the box unsupported some so another r piece of cheap wood solved that =
issue. Nothing strange about money making decisions. All because they =
needed a place to put the electric fuel pump and that place was under =
the parcel tray with an access door.  =20

=20

Smart decisions tome.

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mayf=20

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From: Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Ron Fraser
Sent: Monday, October 4, 2021 1:12 PM
To: 'Jay' <jay.laifman@gmail.com>
Cc: '<tigers@autox.team.net>' <tigers@Autox.Team.Net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] back to the battery wood packers

=20

Jay

                I don=E2=80=99t think Rootes messed up.

The trunk floor is not flat, it has a raised sections the battery sets =
upon.

=20

The side wood keeps the battery off the big rubber grommet for the rear =
spring shackle.

You need 2 Battery Packers was the answer.

=20

Besides, How can you have a Proper British Car if it has no wood - =
=F0=9F=98=8A=20

=20

Ron Fraser

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Sent: Monday, October 04, 2021 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Tigers] back to the battery wood packers

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I haven=E2=80=99t been focusing on this.  So I might be =
misunderstanding.  It sounds like Rootes messed up and the tray =
didn=E2=80=99t exactly fit, and they needed to kludge together a bandaid =
to get the cars out the door.  And we=E2=80=99ve got dozens of emails =
going back and forth on this kludge.

=20

Reminds me of the show I watched about early Corvette restoration - =
years ago.  The expert showed how the AC or alternator bracket paint =
would peel almost immediately after leaving the factory.  So he had =
perfected that peeling!

=20

On the other hand, the wood piece was perhaps one of the most =
=E2=80=9Chuman=E2=80=9D parts of the car.  All the more reason to honor =
it.  Though still very funny.

=20

Jay

 =20

=20

On Oct 4, 2021, at 10:54 AM, Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com =

=20

Under tray wood =E2=80=93 the offset of the body mount holes on my Tiger =
is 3/16=E2=80=9D

I made a cardboard templet per the drawing =E2=80=93 pic #1 =E2=80=93 =
the offset angle is acceptable to me

=20

Pic #2 =E2=80=93 battery tray over the templet =E2=80=93 in my opinion =
this sticks out too far and at the front area it is tight to the body

I will make and install this piece before I make a judgement call on its =
length =E2=80=93 this is not a concours Tiger

=20

Side wood =E2=80=93 I made a piece per the drawing and I found that my =
body mount holes are about a 1/16=E2=80=9D closer together =E2=80=93 I =
opened the through holes to make this piece fit better   I made a 2nd =
piece with the mount holes closer and a better fit

=20

I do suggest that anyone making this piece =E2=80=93 check the body =
mount hole distance carefully and make any needed correction.

You can make 1 mount hole, install with 1 screw and mark exactly where =
the 2nd hole is located.

=20

Now to apply some wood preservative and let them dry =E2=80=93 =
I=E2=80=99ll install these pieces later this month

=20

Ron Fraser

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vlink=3Dpurple style=3D'word-wrap:break-word'><div =
class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>I think it was simpler than =
anyone has brought up. The car was founded on the S4 and S5 Alpines =
which had the bat box under the parcel shelf (aka rear seat). And the =
trunk floor was made to a stamping drawing and if it needed to be done =
differently a new set of dies would have had to have been made ($$$$). =
Batteries need to sit flat and so a plastic (nylon I think). I believe =
that originally the rear mounted tray fit the lip on the fame side. That =
would =C2=A0have given the tray a side mount under as well. Bu that use =
in the position as mentioned below required that it be spaced out a tad. =
Ok, the skinny long piece of wood behind the tray maintains side =
clearance for a few pennies. But that left the inside of the box =
unsupported some so another r piece of cheap wood solved that issue. =
Nothing strange about money making decisions. All because they needed a =
place to put the electric fuel pump and that place was under the parcel =
tray with an access door. =C2=A0=C2=A0<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Smart =
decisions tome.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>mayf =
<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Tigers =
&lt;tigers-bounces@autox.team.net&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ron =
Fraser<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 4, 2021 1:12 PM<br><b>To:</b> =
'Jay' &lt;jay.laifman@gmail.com&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> =
'&lt;tigers@autox.team.net&gt;' =
&lt;tigers@Autox.Team.Net&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] back to =
the battery wood packers<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Jay<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I don=E2=80=99t think Rootes messed =
up.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>The trunk floor is not flat, it =
has a raised sections the battery sets upon.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>The side =
wood keeps the battery off the big rubber grommet for the rear spring =
shackle.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>You need 2 Battery Packers =
was the answer.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Besides, How =
can you have a Proper British Car if it has no wood - <span =
style=3D'font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji",sans-serif'>&#128522;</span> =
<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Ron Fraser<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Jay &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:jay.laifman@gmail.com";>jay.laifman@gmail.com</a>&gt; =
<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 04, 2021 3:49 PM<br><b>To:</b> Ron =
Fraser &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com";>rfraser@bluefrog.com</a>&gt;<br><b>C=
c:</b> &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt; =
&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers@Autox.Team.Net";>tigers@Autox.Team.Net</a>&gt;<br><b=
>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] back to the battery wood =
packers<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I =
haven=E2=80=99t been focusing on this. &nbsp;So I might be =
misunderstanding. &nbsp;It sounds like Rootes messed up and the tray =
didn=E2=80=99t exactly fit, and they needed to kludge together a bandaid =
to get the cars out the door. &nbsp;And we=E2=80=99ve got dozens of =
emails going back and forth on this kludge.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Reminds me of the show I watched about early Corvette =
restoration - years ago. &nbsp;The expert showed how the AC or =
alternator bracket paint would peel almost immediately after leaving the =
factory. &nbsp;So he had perfected that =
peeling!<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>On the other hand, the wood piece was perhaps one of =
the most =E2=80=9Chuman=E2=80=9D parts of the car. &nbsp;All the more =
reason to honor it. &nbsp;Though still very =
funny.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Jay<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>On Oct 4, 2021, at 10:54 AM, Ron Fraser &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com";>rfraser@bluefrog.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b>Under tray wood</b><span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span>=E2=80=93 the offset of the =
body mount holes on my Tiger is =
3/16=E2=80=9D<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I made a =
cardboard templet per the drawing =E2=80=93 pic #1 =E2=80=93 the offset =
angle is acceptable to me<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Pic #2 =E2=80=93 battery tray over the templet =
=E2=80=93 in my opinion this sticks out too far and at the front area it =
is tight to the body<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I =
will make and install this piece before I make a judgement call on its =
length =E2=80=93 this is not a concours =
Tiger<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b>Side wood</b><span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span>=E2=80=93 I made a piece per =
the drawing and I found that my body mount holes are about a =
1/16=E2=80=9D closer together =E2=80=93 I opened the through holes to =
make this piece fit better&nbsp;&nbsp; I made a 2<sup>nd</sup><span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span>piece with the mount holes =
closer and a better fit<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I =
do suggest that anyone making this piece =E2=80=93 check the body mount =
hole distance carefully and make any needed =
correction.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>You can make 1 =
mount hole, install with 1 screw and mark exactly where the =
2<sup>nd</sup><span class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span>hole is =
located.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Now to apply some wood preservative and let them dry =
=E2=80=93 I=E2=80=99ll install these pieces later this =
month<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Ron Fraser<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
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