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Darn I forgot to make sure this went to the Tiger List too.
My bad
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Ron Fraser
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From: Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com>=20
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2021 8:06 PM
To: 'Donald Antilla' <fast427@sbcglobal.net>; 'Joe Brown' =
<jbbrown1980@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: [Tigers] Brake Issue
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Joe
A long time ago I had a similar problem. I finally =
found that the spring inside the MC was worn and lost some of its spring =
force thus the internal brake parts were not moving correctly. I =
located a new spring and rebuilt the MC. =20
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Right now, if you pull up on the brake pedal, will the brakes release?
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I think I also bought new springs for the pedals because I thought they =
were on the weak side.
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Do you remember when the last time the MC was rebuilt? Seems like you =
might need to now and be sure to inspect all the MC internal parts.
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Ron Fraser
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From: Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net =
Tigers
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2021 6:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Brake Issue
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OK- just saw this note. If you have replaced your flex hoses, then it is =
probably back to looking at your master cylinder.
Please be aware that most master cylinders have an internal =
=E2=80=9Chold off=E2=80=9D check valve to provide a bit of residual =
pressure to keep the seals in drum brake slave cylinders from leaking. =
Be certain you do not have that type of master cylinder if you have disc =
brakes.
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Date: Thursday, June 24, 2021 at 4:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Brake Issue
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I have brand new rubber hoses that I got from Sunbeam Specialties last =
week.
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On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 3:42 PM Donald Antilla <fast427@sbcglobal.net =
I had this problem on two different cars. The cause was old flexible =
hydraulic hoses that had deteriorated inside.=20
I changed them and the problem was resolved.=20
>From Don's iPhone 203-592-8427
Or 203-264-8301 home
> On Jun 24, 2021, at 4:39 PM, Joe Brown via Tigers =
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> =EF=BB=BF
> Hey,
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> I'm scratching my head over an issue I'm having with my brakes. This =
actually started last year and I'm just now trying to sort it out.
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> Basically, after pumping the brake pedal a few times the front brakes =
lock up (only the fronts). If I crack open either bleed screw they free =
up. In fact, cracking open the line anywhere going back to the master =
cylinder frees up the brakes.
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> I have bypassed the booster, replaced all of the rubber lines and =
rebuilt the calipers. This seems to leave the master cylinder. I =
disconnected the brake line from the master cylinder and put a short =
line on it that feeds back into the master cylinder reservoir so I could =
bleed any air out of it. That all seems to work okay.
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> So, I'm looking for other ideas. =20
>=20
> Thanks,
> Joe Brown=20
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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>Darn I =
forgot to make sure this went to the Tiger List too.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>My bad<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Ron =
Fraser<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Ron Fraser =
<rfraser@bluefrog.com> <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 24, 2021 =
8:06 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Donald Antilla' <fast427@sbcglobal.net>; =
'Joe Brown' <jbbrown1980@gmail.com><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: =
[Tigers] Brake Issue<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Joe<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> &=
nbsp; A long time ago I had a similar =
problem. I finally found that the spring inside the MC =
was worn and lost some of its spring force thus the internal brake parts =
were not moving correctly. I located a new spring and =
rebuilt the MC. <o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Right now, =
if you pull up on the brake pedal, will the brakes =
release?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>I think I also bought new springs for the pedals =
because I thought they were on the weak side.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Do you =
remember when the last time the MC was rebuilt? Seems like =
you might need to now and be sure to inspect all the MC internal =
parts.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Ron Fraser<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Tigers <<a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net";>tigers-bounces@autox.team.n=
et</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Donald Antilla via Tigers<br><b>Sent:</b> =
Thursday, June 24, 2021 6:01 PM<br><b>To:</b> Joe Brown <<a =
href=3D"mailto:jbbrown1980@gmail.com";>jbbrown1980@gmail.com</a>><br><b=
>Cc:</b> Tigers Den <<a =
href=3D"mailto:Tigers@autox.team.net";>Tigers@autox.team.net</a>><br><b=
>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Brake Issue<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>OK- just saw =
this note. If you have replaced your flex hoses, then it is probably =
back to looking at your master cylinder.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Please be =
aware that most master cylinders have an internal =E2=80=9Chold =
off=E2=80=9D check valve to provide a bit of residual pressure to keep =
the seals in drum brake slave cylinders from leaking. Be certain you do =
not have that type of master cylinder if you have disc =
brakes.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:=
p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:=
p></span></p><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF =
1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>From: </span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Joe Brown <<a =
href=3D"mailto:jbbrown1980@gmail.com";>jbbrown1980@gmail.com</a>><br><b=
>Date: </b>Thursday, June 24, 2021 at 4:45 PM<br><b>To: </b>Don Antilla =
<<a =
href=3D"mailto:fast427@sbcglobal.net";>fast427@sbcglobal.net</a>><br><b=
>Cc: </b>Tigers Den <<a =
href=3D"mailto:Tigers@autox.team.net";>Tigers@autox.team.net</a>><br><b=
>Subject: </b>Re: [Tigers] Brake =
Issue<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I =
have brand new rubber hoses that I got from Sunbeam Specialties last =
week.<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 3:42 PM Donald Antilla <<a =
href=3D"mailto:fast427@sbcglobal.net";>fast427@sbcglobal.net</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
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6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5=
.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>I had this =
problem on two different cars. The cause was old flexible hydraulic =
hoses that had deteriorated inside. <br>I changed them and the problem =
was resolved. <br><br>From Don's iPhone 203-592-8427<br>Or 203-264-8301 =
home<br><br>> On Jun 24, 2021, at 4:39 PM, Joe Brown via Tigers =
<<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br>> <br>> =
=EF=BB=BF<br>> Hey,<br>> <br>> I'm scratching my head over an =
issue I'm having with my brakes. This actually started last year =
and I'm just now trying to sort it out.<br>> <br>> Basically, =
after pumping the brake pedal a few times the front brakes lock up (only =
the fronts). If I crack open either bleed screw they free =
up. In fact, cracking open the line anywhere going back to the =
master cylinder frees up the brakes.<br>> <br>> I have bypassed =
the booster, replaced all of the rubber lines and rebuilt the =
calipers. This seems to leave the master cylinder. I =
disconnected the brake line from the master cylinder and put a short =
line on it that feeds back into the master cylinder reservoir so I could =
bleed any air out of it. That all seems to work okay.<br>> =
<br>> So, I'm looking for other ideas. <br>> <br>> =
Thanks,<br>> Joe Brown <br>> =
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