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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Rack filling
From: Gary <garywinblad@comcast.net>
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 14:46:40 -0700
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Reading this thread reminded me... years ago I had to fill my rack in 
the car.
My old brain forgets the details but I do remember I jacked the car up 
on the passenger side.
I think I removed the little plate on the front passenger side of the 
rack (covers the hole that the
piston and spring go in on the drivers side).   I must have poured the 
oil in there. I do remember
I had to work the rack left and right to get the thick oil to distribute 
to the drivers side.

I think I had to change the rack boots(bellows) because the ones SS 
supplied me were REALLY thin
and cheap and leaked.

Putting the oil in that way was easier than pulling the radiator and 
then the rack and fill it out of
the car...  which is much preferred.
Gary

On 8/25/2020 10:14 AM, Warren Goodman via Tigers wrote:
>
> The amount to fill the rack is in the shop manual. Should you desire 
> to drain the rack take off one wheel lower that side of the car as 
> much as possible.
> On the other side raise it as much as possible then break the lower 
> zip tie or clamp on the  rack bellows. Allow enough time for the old 
> oil to dribble out into a shallow pan possibly one of those old 
> aluminum ones or non stick ones that your wife threw out like mine 
> did..  Next AM replace tie remove high side outboard tie If you didn't 
> do it already to make it drain faster.
> And refill. Replace ties put wheels back on and you're done.
>
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> I believe Kirk's "big hypodermic needle" was the means by which he he
> filled his rack and not necessarily the volume of oil -?? if that is what
> was meant by, "more than that."
>
> I took a tire fill valve, the metal kind that thread?? into place,
> removed the Schrader valve and drilling a tight fit hole at the
> upper/outer pleat on one side of the boot (see image). Removing the cap
> and attaching the oil containers tapered nozzle becomes a means to fill
> the rack. They mystery is what volume to replace??? The rack is not
> meant to be completely filled and there is no dip stick.
>
> A couple more thoughts. My Tiger has been stationary, on jackstands for
> 20+ years now. I'm 50 miles out of LA and the car doesn't see smog or
> sunlight. Regardless the condition of my circa 2000 purchased rubber
> parts (or parts with rubber) are absolutely dismal. I have OEM rubber
> parts on other cars that are 40-60 years old and still functional. Yet
> the deterioration of my "new" Tiger parts started in as little as 2-3
> years (the lower ball joint rubber). I'm not sure if that is a general
> complaint or a warning to check your (relatively new) parts. Perhaps both.
>
> On 8/24/2020 8:32 PM, coolvt--- via Tigers wrote:
> > I find that the MG Midget rack that I use requires 8 oz. of oil.?? I
> > thought the Tiger rack was much more than that.
> >
> > In a message dated 8/24/2020 9:13:21 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> >
> > I watched my rack bellows as I turned the wheel lock to lock- found
> > the section of the bellow that flexed the least, poked a tiny hole
> > through the top of that bellow, filled the rack with a big hypodermic
> > needle, then put a spot of butyl rubber on the pin hole. It???s been 20
> > years or so, and it???s never leaked and the rubber is still sealed
> > where I pricked it.?? Kirk
> >
> > *From:* Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net 
> > *coolvt--- via Tigers
> > *Sent:* Monday, August 24, 2020 5:46 PM
> > *Subject:* [Tigers] Steering rack
> >
> > I've filled a few racks?? over the years,but?? always with the rack off
> > the car. I'm thinking of trying with rack on the car this time. Anyone
> > have a foolproof method of doing this??? Mark L
> >
> > In a message dated 8/24/2020 6:50:13 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> >
> > Ditto's on the wanting something better than zip ties.
> > I have seen a similar to the sardine clamp for the vacuum booster on
> > Moss motors. It's close but no cigar. The stainless steel ones would
> > look almost too nice.
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> > Here are some options from McMaster Carr.?? The first one is one of
> > those squeeze bars types.?? The other is 5/16? wide, which seems to be
> > their most narrow.
> >
> > I know I?ve seen more narrow somewhere.
> >
> > 
> https://www.mcmaster.com/hose-clamps/constant-tension-spring-clamps-for-firm-hose-and-tube/
> >
> > 
> https://www.mcmaster.com/hose-clamps/clamp-type~worm-drive/band-width~5-16/
> >
> > On Aug 24, 2020, at 2:21 PM, Tom Witt via Tigers
> >
> > Wanting something better than plastic zip ties to secure the boots I
> > ventures to the world of hose clamps. You are correct most are too
> > wide. I scoured through Pick Your Part and found certain BMW clamps
> > (left in image) from the 80's/90's to not only be narrow enough, but
> > also have a slight bevel on the edge. That said it was still a search
> > to find the clamp in an appropriate diameter. I used these on my Tiger
> > rack. I'd assume the midget rack boots are similar. Sorry I can't tell
> > you the year/model and location the clamps were used but hopefully it
> > helps with your search. Photo for comparison.
> >
> > <ichnfkdfppofgpgj.png>
> >
> > On 8/24/2020 6:42 AM, coolvt--- via Tigers wrote:
> >
> > >
> >
> > > I have the MG Midget steering rack conversion.?? I need rubber
> > boots.?? Does it take the same as a standard Tiger??? Also, what are
> > good clamps that will work to secure??? Radiator clamps seem a little
> > too wide and tend to cut into the boot.?? ??Thanks, Mark L
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> > What size do you need? A PEX clamp, available at plumbing/home supply
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> > Subject: Re: [Tigers] Steering rack
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> > Wanting something better than plastic zip ties to secure the boots I
> > ventures to the world of hose clamps. You are correct most are too
> > wide. I scoured through Pick Your Part and found certain BMW clamps
> > (left in image) from the 80's/90's to not only be narrow enough, but
> > also have a slight bevel on the edge. That said it was still a search
> > to find the clamp in an appropriate diameter. I used these on my Tiger
> > rack. I'd assume the midget rack boots are similar. Sorry I can't tell
> > you the year/model and location the clamps were used but hopefully it
> > helps with your search. Photo for comparison.
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> > On 8/24/2020 6:42 AM, coolvt--- via Tigers wrote:
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> > I have the MG Midget steering rack conversion.?? I need rubber
> > boots.?? Does it take the same as a standard Tiger??? Also, what are
> > good clamps that will work to secure??? Radiator clamps seem a little
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    Reading this thread reminded me... years ago I had to fill my rack
    in the car.<br>
    My old brain forgets the details but I do remember I jacked the car
    up on the passenger side.<br>
    I think I removed the little plate on the front passenger side of
    the rack (covers the hole that the<br>
    piston and spring go in on the drivers side).   I must have poured
    the oil in there. I do remember<br>
    I had to work the rack left and right to get the thick oil to
    distribute to the drivers side.<br>
    <br>
    I think I had to change the rack boots(bellows) because the ones SS
    supplied me were REALLY thin<br>
    and cheap and leaked.<br>
    <br>
    Putting the oil in that way was easier than pulling the radiator and
    then the rack and fill it out of<br>
    the car...  which is much preferred.<br>
    Gary<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/25/2020 10:14 AM, Warren Goodman
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      <p dir="ltr">The amount to fill the rack is in the shop manual. 
        Should you desire to drain the rack take off one wheel lower
        that side of the car as much as possible. <br>
        On the other side raise it as much as possible then break the
        lower zip tie or clamp on the  rack bellows. Allow enough time
        for the old oil to dribble out into a shallow pan possibly one
        of those old aluminum ones or non stick ones that your wife
        threw out like mine did..  Next AM replace tie remove high side 
        outboard tie If you didn't do it already to make it drain
        faster. <br>
        And refill. Replace ties put wheels back on and you're done. <br>
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      <div dir="ltr">I believe Kirk's "big hypodermic needle" was the
        means by which he he <br>
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      <div dir="ltr">filled his rack and not necessarily the volume of
        oil -?? if that is what <br>
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      <div dir="ltr">was meant by, "more than that."<br>
      </div>
      <div dir="ltr"><br>
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      <div dir="ltr">I took a tire fill valve, the metal kind that
        thread?? into place, <br>
      </div>
      <div dir="ltr">removed the Schrader valve and drilling a tight fit
        hole at the <br>
      </div>
      <div dir="ltr">upper/outer pleat on one side of the boot (see
        image). Removing the cap <br>
      </div>
      <div dir="ltr">and attaching the oil containers tapered nozzle
        becomes a means to fill <br>
      </div>
      <div dir="ltr">the rack. They mystery is what volume to replace???
        The rack is not <br>
      </div>
      <div dir="ltr">meant to be completely filled and there is no dip
        stick.<br>
      </div>
      <div dir="ltr"><br>
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      <div dir="ltr">A couple more thoughts. My Tiger has been
        stationary, on jackstands for <br>
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      <div dir="ltr">20+ years now. I'm 50 miles out of LA and the car
        doesn't see smog or <br>
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      <div dir="ltr">sunlight. Regardless the condition of my circa 2000
        purchased rubber <br>
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      <div dir="ltr">parts (or parts with rubber) are absolutely dismal.
        I have OEM rubber <br>
      </div>
      <div dir="ltr">parts on other cars that are 40-60 years old and
        still functional. Yet <br>
      </div>
      <div dir="ltr">the deterioration of my "new" Tiger parts started
        in as little as 2-3 <br>
      </div>
      <div dir="ltr">years (the lower ball joint rubber). I'm not sure
        if that is a general <br>
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      <div dir="ltr">complaint or a warning to check your (relatively
        new) parts. Perhaps both.<br>
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      <div dir="ltr"><br>
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      <div dir="ltr">On 8/24/2020 8:32 PM, coolvt--- via Tigers wrote:<br>
      </div>
      <div dir="ltr">&gt; I find that the MG Midget rack that I use
        requires 8 oz. of oil.?? I <br>
      </div>
      <div dir="ltr">&gt; thought the Tiger rack was much more than
        that.<br>
      </div>
      <div dir="ltr">&gt;<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">&gt; In a message dated 8/24/2020 9:13:21 PM
        Eastern Standard Time, <br>
      </div>
      <div dir="ltr">&gt; <a ymailto="mailto:twotigers@verizon.net";
          href="mailto:twotigers@verizon.net"; 
moz-do-not-send="true">twotigers@verizon.net</a>
        writes:<br>
      </div>
      <div dir="ltr">&gt;<br>
      </div>
      <div dir="ltr">&gt; I watched my rack bellows as I turned the
        wheel lock to lock- found <br>
      </div>
      <div dir="ltr">&gt; the section of the bellow that flexed the
        least, poked a tiny hole <br>
      </div>
      <div dir="ltr">&gt; through the top of that bellow, filled the
        rack with a big hypodermic <br>
      </div>
      <div dir="ltr">&gt; needle, then put a spot of butyl rubber on the
        pin hole. It???s been 20 <br>
      </div>
      <div dir="ltr">&gt; years or so, and it???s never leaked and the
        rubber is still sealed <br>
      </div>
      <div dir="ltr">&gt; where I pricked it.?? Kirk<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">&gt;<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">&gt; *From:* Tigers &lt;<a
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          href="mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net";
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        *On Behalf Of <br>
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      <div dir="ltr">&gt; *coolvt--- via Tigers<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">&gt; *Sent:* Monday, August 24, 2020 5:46 PM<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">&gt; *To:* <a
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      <div dir="ltr">&gt; *Subject:* [Tigers] Steering rack<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">&gt;<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">&gt; I've filled a few racks?? over the years,but??
        always with the rack off <br>
      </div>
      <div dir="ltr">&gt; the car. I'm thinking of trying with rack on
        the car this time. Anyone <br>
      </div>
      <div dir="ltr">&gt; have a foolproof method of doing this??? Mark
        L<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">&gt;<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">&gt; In a message dated 8/24/2020 6:50:13 PM
        Eastern Standard Time, <br>
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        writes:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">&gt; Ditto's on the wanting something better than
        zip ties.<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">&gt; I have seen a similar to the sardine clamp for
        the vacuum booster on <br>
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      <div dir="ltr">&gt; Moss motors. It's close but no cigar. The
        stainless steel ones would <br>
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      <div dir="ltr">&gt; look almost too nice.<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">&gt; Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2020 14:34:00 -0700<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">&gt; Subject: Re: [Tigers] Steering rack<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">&gt; Here are some options from McMaster Carr.??
        The first one is one of <br>
      </div>
      <div dir="ltr">&gt; those squeeze bars types.?? The other is 5/16?
        wide, which seems to be <br>
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      <div dir="ltr">&gt; their most narrow.<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">&gt;<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">&gt; I know I?ve seen more narrow somewhere.<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">&gt;<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">&gt; <a
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      <div dir="ltr">&gt; On Aug 24, 2020, at 2:21 PM, Tom Witt via
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      <div dir="ltr">&gt; Wanting something better than plastic zip ties
        to secure the boots I <br>
      </div>
      <div dir="ltr">&gt; ventures to the world of hose clamps. You are
        correct most are too <br>
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      <div dir="ltr">&gt; wide. I scoured through Pick Your Part and
        found certain BMW clamps <br>
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      <div dir="ltr">&gt; (left in image) from the 80's/90's to not only
        be narrow enough, but <br>
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      <div dir="ltr">&gt; also have a slight bevel on the edge. That
        said it was still a search <br>
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      <div dir="ltr">&gt; to find the clamp in an appropriate diameter.
        I used these on my Tiger <br>
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      <div dir="ltr">&gt; rack. I'd assume the midget rack boots are
        similar. Sorry I can't tell <br>
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      <div dir="ltr">&gt; you the year/model and location the clamps
        were used but hopefully it <br>
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      <div dir="ltr">&gt; helps with your search. Photo for comparison.<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">&gt; On 8/24/2020 6:42 AM, coolvt--- via Tigers
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      <div dir="ltr">&gt; &gt;<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">&gt; &gt; I have the MG Midget steering rack
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        Tiger??? Also, what are <br>
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        Radiator clamps seem a little <br>
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        ??Thanks, Mark L<br>
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        Tom Witt<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">&gt;<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">&gt; ?????? &lt;<a
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      <div dir="ltr">&gt;<br>
      </div>
      <div dir="ltr">&gt; Subject: Re: [Tigers] Steering rack<br>
      </div>
      <div dir="ltr">&gt;<br>
      </div>
      <div dir="ltr">&gt; Message-ID:<br>
      </div>
      <div dir="ltr">&gt;<br>
      </div>
      <div dir="ltr">&gt; ?????? <br>
      </div>
      <div dir="ltr">&gt; &lt;<a
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      <div dir="ltr">&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">&gt;<br>
      </div>
      <div dir="ltr">&gt; What size do you need? A PEX clamp, available
        at plumbing/home supply <br>
      </div>
      <div dir="ltr">&gt; stores may work, and is similar to what auto
        manufacturers use now.<br>
      </div>
      <div dir="ltr">&gt;<br>
      </div>
      <div dir="ltr">&gt; [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" 
href="cid:d5e737fc-a7bd-4c11-b175-ac3df52da3fb">cid:d5e737fc-a7bd-4c11-b175-ac3df52da3fb</a>]<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">&gt;<br>
      </div>
      <div dir="ltr">&gt; This is from the McMaster-Carr catalog.<br>
      </div>
      <div dir="ltr">&gt;<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">&gt; [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" 
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      <div dir="ltr">&gt;<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">&gt; Steve<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">&gt;<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">&gt; ________________________________<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">&gt;<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">&gt; From: Tigers &lt;<a
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      <div dir="ltr">&gt; Sent: Monday, August 24, 2020 2:21 PM<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">&gt; Subject: Re: [Tigers] Steering rack<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">&gt; Wanting something better than plastic zip ties
        to secure the boots I <br>
      </div>
      <div dir="ltr">&gt; ventures to the world of hose clamps. You are
        correct most are too <br>
      </div>
      <div dir="ltr">&gt; wide. I scoured through Pick Your Part and
        found certain BMW clamps <br>
      </div>
      <div dir="ltr">&gt; (left in image) from the 80's/90's to not only
        be narrow enough, but <br>
      </div>
      <div dir="ltr">&gt; also have a slight bevel on the edge. That
        said it was still a search <br>
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      <div dir="ltr">&gt; to find the clamp in an appropriate diameter.
        I used these on my Tiger <br>
      </div>
      <div dir="ltr">&gt; rack. I'd assume the midget rack boots are
        similar. Sorry I can't tell <br>
      </div>
      <div dir="ltr">&gt; you the year/model and location the clamps
        were used but hopefully it <br>
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      <div dir="ltr">&gt; helps with your search. Photo for comparison.<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">&gt; On 8/24/2020 6:42 AM, coolvt--- via Tigers
        wrote:<br>
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      </div>
      <div dir="ltr">&gt; I have the MG Midget steering rack
        conversion.?? I need rubber <br>
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      <div dir="ltr">&gt; boots.?? Does it take the same as a standard
        Tiger??? Also, what are <br>
      </div>
      <div dir="ltr">&gt; good clamps that will work to secure???
        Radiator clamps seem a little <br>
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      <div dir="ltr">&gt; too wide and tend to cut into the boot.??
        ??Thanks, Mark L<br>
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