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Re: [Tigers] Power steering

To: "Larry E. Paulick" <lpaulick1@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Power steering
From: Bob Wanty via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020 08:55:21 -0400
Cc: Lance Beauchamp <blance598@gmail.com>, Tigers Den <Tigers@autox.team.net>
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My Tiger has the Armstrong unit.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 18, 2020, at 1:16 AM, Larry E. Paulick via Tigers <tigers@autox.tea=
m.net> wrote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BFI have never seen any photos, actual cost and part # or year/make=
/etc of elec power steering, only comments. Better yet a comprehensive artic=
le, such as those contained in Tigers United, would be great.  Does anyone h=
ave these they can post?
>=20
> Thanks
>=20
> Larry
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>> On Aug 16, 2020, at 9:56 PM, Buck Trippel via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.n=
et> wrote:
>>=20
>> I had a Vaxhual electric setup from the UK installed in one of out Tigers=
. It was great around town or on a curvey road. (you can dial in the amount o=
f =E2=80=9Cboost=E2=80=9D you want.=20
>> =20
>> Michael is very correct in that the installation was very neat, even in t=
he LHD version I had. (about the only mod needed was to trim one of the meta=
l defroster ducts under the driver=E2=80=99s side of the dash.)=20
>> =20
>> However I did not like the power steering unit on the open road. I never w=
as able to get it to track as well as the stock setup on the highway. I adde=
d all the caster I could (even wedged the cross member) but I was never happ=
y with it. It was just too twitchy on straight roads and I do a lot of long d=
istance highway driving in our Tigers. After an 8-hour drive I just found my=
self working too much. I couldn=E2=80=99t relax. I pulled it out & went back=
 to the stock setup. The EPS unit is now resting quietly on some shelf in th=
e garage. On the other hand, if I were driving daily on twisty mountain road=
s I=E2=80=99d go back to it in a second.
>> =20
>> Buck Trippel
>> =20
>> =20
>> From: Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of michael king vi=
a Tigers
>> Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2020 6:38 PM
>> To: Lance Beauchamp <blance598@gmail.com>
>> Cc: Tiger Club. Submission <tigers@autox.team.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Power steering
>> =20
>> There are several ways to introduce power steering to the Tiger,
>> =20
>> In the UK and Australia people use the vaxhual/holden/opel astra electric=
 setup mounted to a donor alpine top section of the steering column, very ne=
at mounts under the dash and keeps all the stock components from the firewal=
l forward..
>> =20
>> There are also several people who have used hydraulic setups from mazda M=
X5 (miata) and also some subarus... these though require a change in rack
>> =20
>> =20
>> =20
>> On Mon, 17 Aug 2020 at 11:23, Lance Beauchamp via Tigers <tigers@autox.te=
am.net> wrote:
>>> Really , there is NO power steering unit that could be retrofitted to th=
e tiger. The older I get the harder it steers when going  slow.=20
>>>   Beau
>>> =20
>>> =20
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>> Michael King
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">My Tiger has the Armstrong unit.<br><br><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=
=3D"cite">On Aug 18, 2020, at 1:16 AM, Larry E. Paulick via Tigers &lt;tiger=
s@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"ci=
te"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"t=
ext/html; charset=3Dutf-8">I have never seen any photos, actual cost and par=
t # or year/make/etc of elec power steering, only comments. Better yet a com=
prehensive article, such as those contained in Tigers United, would be great=
. &nbsp;Does anyone have these they can post?<div class=3D""><br class=3D"">=
</div><div class=3D"">Thanks</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div c=
lass=3D"">Larry<br class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" c=
lass=3D""><div class=3D"">On Aug 16, 2020, at 9:56 PM, Buck Trippel via Tige=
rs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; class=3D"">tigers@autox.team=
.net</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D=
""><div class=3D"WordSection1" style=3D"page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb=
(0, 0, 0); font-family: Times-Roman; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; fo=
nt-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-a=
lign: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; wo=
rd-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><di=
v style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" c=
lass=3D"">I had a Vaxhual electric setup from the UK installed in one of out=
 Tigers. It was great around town or on a curvey road. (you can dial in the a=
mount of =E2=80=9Cboost=E2=80=9D you want.<span class=3D"Apple-converted-spa=
ce">&nbsp;</span><o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font=
-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&=
nbsp;</o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Ca=
libri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Michael is very correct in that the installat=
ion was very neat, even in the LHD version I had. (about the only mod needed=
 was to trim one of the metal defroster ducts under the driver=E2=80=99s sid=
e of the dash.)<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><o:p class=
=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: C=
alibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div style=
=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D=
"">However I did not like the power steering unit on the open road. I never w=
as able to get it to track as well as the stock setup on the highway. I adde=
d all the caster I could (even wedged the cross member) but I was never happ=
y with it. It was just too twitchy on straight roads and I do a lot of long d=
istance highway driving in our Tigers. After an 8-hour drive I just found my=
self working too much. I couldn=E2=80=99t relax. I pulled it out &amp; went b=
ack to the stock setup. The EPS unit is now resting quietly on some shelf in=
 the garage. On the other hand, if I were driving daily on twisty mountain r=
oads I=E2=80=99d go back to it in a second.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div s=
tyle=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" cla=
ss=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-si=
ze: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Buck Trippel<o:p cla=
ss=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:=
 Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div sty=
le=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=
=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div style=3D"border-style: solid no=
ne none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); paddin=
g: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font=
-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><b class=3D"">From:</b><span class=
=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers-=
bounces@autox.team.net" class=3D"">tigers-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<spa=
n class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><b class=3D"">On Behalf Of<sp=
an class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></b>michael king via Tigers<=
br class=3D""><b class=3D"">Sent:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&=
nbsp;</span>Sunday, August 16, 2020 6:38 PM<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">To:<=
/b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Lance Beauchamp &lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:blance598@gmail.com"; class=3D"">blance598@gmail.com</a>&gt;<=
br class=3D""><b class=3D"">Cc:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nb=
sp;</span>Tiger Club. Submission &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net=
" class=3D"">tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">Subje=
ct:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: [Tigers] Power=
 steering<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-s=
ize: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nb=
sp;</o:p></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; f=
ont-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">There are several ways to intro=
duce power steering to the Tiger,<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div class=3D""=
><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-seri=
f;" class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div s=
tyle=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" cla=
ss=3D"">In the UK and Australia people use the vaxhual/holden/opel astra ele=
ctric setup mounted to a donor&nbsp;alpine top section of the steering&nbsp;=
column, very neat mounts under the dash and keeps all the stock components f=
rom the firewall forward..<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D"">=
<div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif=
;" class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div s=
tyle=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" cla=
ss=3D"">There are also several people who have used hydraulic&nbsp;setups fr=
om mazda MX5 (miata) and also some subarus... these though require a change i=
n rack<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin=
: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p c=
lass=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in;=
 font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p class=3D=
"">&nbsp;</o:p></div></div></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt;=
 font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p><=
/div><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 1=
1pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">On Mon, 17 Aug 2020 at 11=
:23, Lance Beauchamp via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"=
 style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"">tigers@autox.=
team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><blockquote style=3D=
"border-style: none none none solid; border-left-width: 1pt; border-left-col=
or: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding: 0in 0in 0in 6pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin=
-right: 0in;" class=3D"" type=3D"cite"><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><div s=
tyle=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" cla=
ss=3D"">Really , there is NO power steering unit that could be retrofitted t=
o the tiger. The older I get the harder it steers when going&nbsp; slow.&nbs=
p;<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0i=
n; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">&nbsp; Bea=
u<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in=
; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p class=3D=
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