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Make sure you DO NOT use a magnetic socket to turn the shaft. If it's not
unseated already, that could pull it out.
Stu
On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 10:18 AM Gary <garywinblad@comcast.net> wrote:
> Missing clip is bad, it can fall into the pan.
> You can get the pan off in the car.. I think you might have to take out
> the starter and re-gasket it.
> I would try more to to re-seat it or get the distributor back first.
> It should turn pretty easily when in the pump though, should be some drag
> though.
> I have a special tool to spin it but a socket should work.. put a drill
> on it an see if you can spin it
> to get oil pressure. Drill needs to be on reverse. You'll get more
> resistance at speed.
> Gary
>
>
>
> On 8/13/2020 5:45 AM, R Flynn via Tigers wrote:
>
> A bit more diagnostic information
> - when I run a stiff hanger wire down the side of the shaft, I do not fee=
l
> the retaining clip that should be present
> - Beveled edge does visually appear to be at the top
> - There is no residue in the distributor shaft (i.e. does seem like the
> last person in there stuck the shaft into the distributor just to get it =
to
> seat)
> - I can get a socket on the oil pump shaft and spin it but there is zero
> resistance, not sure if that is normal?
>
> I am a bit concerned that the shaft has come unseated from the oil pump a=
t
> the bottom end given there does not appear to be any retaining clip & it
> leans over against the wall of the hole it is in.
>
> Starting to wonder if I should drop the oil pan (which I believe I can do
> without removing the entire engine, appreciate any input on that) and do
> things properly.
>
> On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 9:40 PM Gary <garywinblad@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sometimes they are just difficult...
>>
>>
>> IIRC, one time we could see the drive shaft was off to one side. We
>>
>> jacked the car on that side so it leaned to the other side
>>
>>
>> which made it more vertical...
>>
>>
>> Good luck,
>>
>>
>> Gary
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8/12/2020 4:47 PM, R Flynn via
>>
>> Tigers wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> In trying to replace the distributor after
>>
>> changing my intake manifold on the =E2=80=9865 289 in my Tiger, I am
>>
>> struggling to get it to slide down over the oil pump shaft,
>>
>> which seems to be leaning over.
>>
>>
>> - tried jiggling the rotor
>>
>>
>> - tried turning the crank with a ratchet while
>>
>> applying gentle pressure to the distributor, though I was doing
>>
>> both
>>
>>
>> - tried using a long socket & extension to put
>>
>> the oil pump shaft itself in different orientations
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> My next attempts will involve
>>
>>
>> - having someone else push down while I turn the
>>
>> crap with a ratchet
>>
>>
>> - trying to pack some grease around the shaft with
>>
>> a screwdriver prior to inserting the distributor to keep the oil
>>
>> pump shaft more centered
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Would welcome any suggestions, solutions, or words
>>
>> of wisdom.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers in advance,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Rick
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">Mak=
e sure you DO NOT use a magnetic socket to turn the shaft.=C2=A0 If it'=
s not unseated already, that could pull it out.</div><div class=3D"gmail_de=
fault" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" sty=
le=3D"font-size:small">Stu<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 10:18 AM Gary &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:garywinblad@comcast.net";>garywinblad@comcast.net</a>&g=
t; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0p=
x 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left=
-width:1px;border-left-style:solid">
=20
=20
=20
<div>
Missing clip is bad, it can fall into the pan.<br>
You can get the pan off in the car.. I think you might have to take
out the starter and re-gasket it.<br>
I would try more to to re-seat it or get the distributor back first.<br=
>
It should turn pretty easily when in the pump though, should be some
drag though.<br>
I have a special tool to spin it but a socket should work..=C2=A0 put a
drill on it an see if you can spin it<br>
to get oil pressure.=C2=A0 Drill needs to be on reverse.=C2=A0 You'=
ll get more
resistance at speed.<br>
Gary<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<div>On 8/13/2020 5:45 AM, R Flynn via
Tigers wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
=20
<div>
<div dir=3D"auto">A bit more diagnostic information</div>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">- when I run a stiff hanger wire down the side of
the shaft, I do not feel the retaining clip that should be
present</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">- Beveled edge does visually appear to be at the
top</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">- There is no residue in the distributor shaft
(i.e. does seem like the last person in there stuck the shaft
into the distributor just to get it to seat)</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">- I can get a socket on the oil pump shaft and
spin it but there is zero resistance, not sure if that is
normal?</div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">I am a bit concerned that the shaft has come
unseated from the oil pump at the bottom end given there does
not appear to be any retaining clip & it leans over against
the wall of the hole it is in.</div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">Starting to wonder if I should drop the oil pan
(which I believe I can do without removing the entire engine,
appreciate any input on that) and do things properly.</div>
<div><br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div class=3D"gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 9:4=
0
PM Gary <<a href=3D"mailto:garywinblad@comcast.net"; target=
=3D"_blank">garywinblad@comcast.net</a>>
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8=
ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1p=
x;border-left-style:solid"><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<div><br>
<br>
Sometimes they are just difficult...<br>
<br>
<br>
IIRC, one time we could see the drive shaft was off to one
side.=C2=A0 We<br>
<br>
jacked the car on that side so it leaned to the other side<br=
>
<br>
<br>
which made it more vertical...<br>
<br>
<br>
Good luck,<br>
<br>
<br>
Gary</div>
<div><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<div>On 8/12/2020 4:47 PM, R Flynn via<br>
<br>
Tigers wrote:<br>
<br>
<br>
</div>
<br>
<br>
</div>
<div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite"><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<div dir=3D"auto">In trying to replace the distributor
after<br>
<br>
changing my intake manifold on the =E2=80=9865 289 in my
Tiger, I am<br>
<br>
struggling to get it to slide down over the oil pump
shaft,<br>
<br>
which seems to be leaning over.</div>
<br>
<br>
<div dir=3D"auto">- tried jiggling the rotor</div>
<br>
<br>
<div dir=3D"auto">- tried turning the crank with a ratchet
while<br>
<br>
applying gentle pressure to the distributor, though I
was doing<br>
<br>
both</div>
<br>
<br>
<div dir=3D"auto">- tried using a long socket &
extension to put<br>
<br>
the oil pump shaft itself in different orientations</div>
<br>
<br>
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
<br>
<br>
</div>
<br>
<br>
<div dir=3D"auto">My next attempts will involve</div>
<br>
<br>
<div dir=3D"auto">- having someone else push down while I
turn the<br>
<br>
crap with a ratchet</div>
<br>
<br>
<div dir=3D"auto">- trying to pack some grease around the
shaft with<br>
<br>
a screwdriver prior to inserting the distributor to
keep the oil<br>
<br>
pump shaft more centered</div>
<br>
<br>
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
<br>
<br>
</div>
<br>
<br>
<div dir=3D"auto">Would welcome any suggestions,
solutions, or words<br>
<br>
of wisdom.</div>
<br>
<br>
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
<br>
<br>
</div>
<br>
<br>
<div dir=3D"auto">Cheers in advance,</div>
<br>
<br>
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
<br>
<br>
</div>
<br>
<br>
<div dir=3D"auto">Rick</div>
<br>
<br>
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
<br>
<br>
</div>
<br>
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