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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Off topic: How to treat new cars
From: Theo Smit via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2019 14:40:29 -0600 (MDT)
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I got a new Focus RS a couple of years ago. I went easy (as much as I could) 
for the first 1000 km. I did change the oil and filter at 4000 km intervals for 
the first three or four. Nowadays it sees full throttle and 4000+ RPM several 
times a day... I'm sure that there are a few people on my commute route that 
are unhappy with Ford's exhaust bark tuning on that car. 

The RS came with the 5W50 synthetic oil spec (shared only with the Ford GT and 
the Mustang, in North America). If anyone pulled that oil from the crankcase 
and put in anything else they had better hope to never have a warranty claim 
related to lubrication. 

Theo 


From: "tigers" <tigers@autox.team.net> 
To: "tigers" <tigers@autox.team.net> 
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2019 12:41:18 PM 
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Off topic: How to treat new cars 

I've read opinions that many new cars come with synthetic and that should be 
pulled from the crank and he first 500-1000 miles still driven with dyno oil to 
improve ring seating. But no mfg is going to suggest that. Otherwise I still 
think old adages are wise, very engine speed and minimize load for first 500 
miles and an early oil change. Also depends on what your plan is. A lease car 
that you keep 30-50k, it won't matter for that. But could be a significant 
impact in oil usage and performance when it gets past 100k. 


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Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2019 11:52 AM 
To: tigers@autox.team.net <tigers@autox.team.net> 
Subject: Tigers Digest, Vol 11, Issue 216 

>> From: Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of coolvt--- via 
>> Tigers 
>> Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2019 8:18 AM 
>> To: sabre2tgr@gmail.com; Tigers@autox.team.net 
>> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Off topic: How to treat new cars 
>> 
>> 
>> I think most of the owners' manuals still suggest driving them at varying 
>> speeds for the first few hundred miles. If it was me, I'd try to take it out 
>> during the coming week and put a few miles on it. Of course, I tend to be a 
>> little fussy with cars? Mark L 
>> 
>> In a message dated 7/20/2019 7:36:04 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
>> tigers@autox.team.net < mailto:tigers@autox.team.net > writes: 
>> 
>> 
>> A question for the gearheads out there: My wife's new Grand Cherokee sits in 
>> the driveway this morning with a grand total of 85 miles on the odometer. 
>> Next weekend there's a trip planned that involves several hours pounding the 
>> interstates. 
>> 
>> 
>> IIRC in the old days they told us to be gentle with new cars until the 
>> engine was "broken in", a few hundred miles or whatever. With with the GC 
>> there isn't much mention of anything like this. 
>> 
>> 
>> So what do you think? With today's oils and clever design, is there anything 
>> to worry about for the long term? 
>> 
>> 
>> Stu 
>> 


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<html><body><div style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-s=
ize: 10pt; color: #000000"><div>I got a new Focus RS a couple of years ago.=
 I went easy (as much as I could)&nbsp;for the first 1000 km. I did change =
the oil and filter at 4000 km intervals for the first three or four. Nowada=
ys it sees full throttle and 4000+ RPM several times a day... I'm sure that=
 there are a few people on my commute route that are unhappy with Ford's ex=
haust bark tuning on that car.</div><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><di=
v>The&nbsp;RS&nbsp;came with the 5W50 synthetic oil spec (shared only with =
the Ford GT and the Mustang, in North America). If anyone&nbsp;pulled that =
oil from the crankcase and put in anything else they had&nbsp;better hope t=
o never have a warranty claim related to lubrication.</div><div><br data-mc=
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&lt;tigers@autox.team.net&gt;<br><b>To: </b>"tigers" &lt;tigers@autox.team.=
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I've read <i>opinions</i>&nbsp;that many new cars come with synthetic and t=
hat should be pulled from the crank and he first 500-1000 miles still drive=
n with dyno oil to improve ring seating.&nbsp; But no mfg is going to sugge=
st that.&nbsp; Otherwise I still think old adages
 are wise, very engine speed and minimize load for first 500 miles and an e=
arly oil change.&nbsp; Also depends on what your plan is.&nbsp; A lease car=
 that you keep 30-50k, it won't matter for that.&nbsp; But could be a signi=
ficant impact in oil usage and performance when
 it gets past 100k.</div>
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&gt;&gt; From: Tigers &lt;tigers-bounces@autox.team.net&gt; On Behalf Of co=
olvt--- via Tigers<br>
&gt;&gt; Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2019 8:18 AM<br>
&gt;&gt; To: sabre2tgr@gmail.com; Tigers@autox.team.net<br>
&gt;&gt; Subject: Re: [Tigers] Off topic: How to treat new cars<br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt;&nbsp; <br>
&gt;&gt; I think most of the owners' manuals still suggest driving them at =
varying speeds for the first few hundred miles.&nbsp; If it was me, I'd try=
 to take it out during the coming week and put a few miles on it. Of course=
, I tend to be a little fussy with cars? Mark
 L <br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; In a message dated 7/20/2019 7:36:04 AM Eastern Standard Time, tig=
ers@autox.team.net &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_=
blank">mailto:tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt; writes:<br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt;&nbsp; <br>
&gt;&gt; A question for the gearheads out there:&nbsp; My wife's new Grand =
Cherokee sits in the driveway this morning with a grand total of 85 miles o=
n the odometer.&nbsp; Next weekend there's a trip planned that involves sev=
eral hours pounding the interstates.
<br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; <br>
&gt;&gt; IIRC in the old days they told us to be gentle with new cars until=
 the engine was "broken in", a few hundred miles or whatever.&nbsp; With wi=
th the GC there isn't much mention of anything like this.
<br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; <br>
&gt;&gt; So what do you think?&nbsp; With today's oils and clever design, i=
s there anything to worry about for the long term?
<br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; <br>
&gt;&gt; Stu <br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
<br>
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