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Re: [Tigers] Replacement VIN plate

To: Bob <bobdixon@frii.com>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Replacement VIN plate
From: Owain Lloyd <owain.lloyd@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 14:31:12 -0500
Cc: "<tigers@autox.team.net>" <tigers@autox.team.net>
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Has anyone ever been pulled over and had their vin checked?   I never have.

Entering Egypt and Saudi Arabia in my Mercedes, I needed a special plastic
embossed plate on the engine with my vin and engine number so they could
easily compare to the carnet de passage and because most of them couldn't
copy the characters they wanted it embossed to take a pencil rubbing.

Anyway, I've just never had the vin plate looked at when pulled over.
 Surely cops just care about the registration?   I was fairly recently arrested
by federal park rangers in my c-type who towed the car while they got to
know me at the station.  It ended amicably after a few hours and they
released me and the car but even then they didn't check the vin.

Would love to hear of anyone's vin plate ever being examined.


On Thursday, February 14, 2013, Bob wrote:

> I'm in Colorado. I'll have to look into our state rules.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 14, 2013, at 11:45 AM, "Thomas Witt" <atwittsend@verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
> >>>> If a dumb-ass paint shop sandblasted the vin plate off a Tiger, is
> there
> any way to legally replace it? <<<
> >
> > Lynn refers to Los Angeles and I'm therefore assuming Bob lives in
> California.  My understanding is that the State does issue replacement
> VIN's.
> But they are not "like" the Rootes issued VIN.  The State has their own
> placard (and ID numbers) that gets riveted to the door frame.  I do not
> know
> if they also stamp the body somewhere.
> >
> > Additionally, with no VIN identifiers remaining I don't know what "can of
> worms" you may be opening in dealing with a bureaucracy.    You may need
> the
> VIN placard for insurance.  And, if you ever get pulled over you prized
> ride
> might get towed, and impounded without the proper body ID.
> >
> > Tom
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn" <cars@wt-inc.com>
> > To: "'Bob Dixon'" <bobdixon@frii.com>; "'tigers@autox.tea'"
> <tigers@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 9:31 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Tigers] Replacement VIN plate
> >
> >
> >> Bob,
> >>
> >> I had the same issue.  Both my JAL tag and vin tag was desolved by an
> acid
> >> dip.
> >>
> >> The answer to both is yes, regardless of what some will say.
> >>
> >> The TAC will not be a problem at all.  However, regarding the
> replacement
> >> VIN tag it might depend on what state you are in. Admittedly, Los
> Angeles
> >> might be a different story than rural North Dakota but I would love to
> meet
> >> a cop in either place that would pull you over, ask for you to open the
> hood
> >> and first inspect then determine the VIN plate was not original to the
> >> Sunbeam Tiger and impound your car for eventual dismemberment/crushing.
> >>
> >> Since I had the original title I went to the DMV and they issued a new
> >> title, for my state, with the original VIN.  I made a replacement tag
> and
> >> all was done.  I showed it to the Chief of Police in my town and he
> could
> >> not have cared less nor could he, by his own admission, tell if it was
> >> original.
> >>
> >> You will hear lots of horror stories about a "friend of a friend" who
> had
> >> their car impounded and crushed due to an illegal/replacement VIN tag  I
> >> doubt you will hear from a single person with firsthand experience.
> >>
> >> Check with your local jurisdiction, be honest, show them the evidence,
> if
> >> any.  You will probably be surprised at the result.  I was told that
> they
> >> did not care what the VIN tag looked like as long as it had the correct
> >> number.  You could have a VIN tag made that looked original, as opposed
> to
> >> the state issued replacement.
> >>
> >> Good luck,
> >>
> >> Lynn
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:
> tigers-bounces@autox.team.net]
> >> On Behalf Of Bob Dixon
> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 4:17 PM
> >> To: tigers@autox.tea
> >> Subject: [Tigers] Replacement VIN plate
> >>
> >> I suspect the answers are 'no' but here goes:
> >>
> >> If a dumb-ass paint shop sandblasted the vin plate off a Tiger, is there
> any
> >> way to legally replace it?  Could a Tiger be TAC'd without it's original
> vin
> >> plate?  If a new VIN is issued by the state, could a Tiger still be
> TAC'd?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Bob
> >> Currently Tigerless :-(
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