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Re: [Tigers] Tiger VIN Transfer

To: mcdangerous@verizon.net, hokey@oasisol.com, Tigers@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger VIN Transfer
From: CoolVT@aol.com
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 21:12:30 EDT
Wonder what he's going to say if the car is sold and  confiscated by some 
DMV for the swapped VIN?
 
 
In a message dated 8/6/2010 8:52:11 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
mcdangerous@verizon.net writes:

It seems  clear that he does, or should.  He's looking for $30k plus for  
the
car.  Here's what he told me:

"We sold a B3realB2 Tiger about  60 days ago for north of $60kE while that
market might have eroded some, not  to the point where a car that is a real
one should go for half that.   If that is where you thought process is as it
relates to pricing on this  particular car, no further conversation is
necessary.

We are well  aware of the fact that this car has in its past been 
represented
as a  B3realB2 Tiger, hence our being ultra-clear (or so we thought, if there
is  still a question in your mind) with calling it for what it  is---a
conversion.  It has been meticulously put together and is an  excellent
value."



On 8/6/10 8:09 PM, "CoolVT@aol.com"  <CoolVT@aol.com> wrote:

> Wonder if the selling dealer knows  the vin has been  switched. He seems 
to
> be covering his butt by  saying it's an Alpine.  Would  he be foolish 
enough
> to show  the vin if he knew it has been  swapped?
>  
>   
> In a message dated 8/6/2010 7:45:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight  Time,
> hokey@oasisol.com writes:
> 
> It seems  the  nice green Alpine has been quite a subject of discussion.
> Lots
>  of  views/opinions here.  But in reality, I think the main issue  c
oncerned
> here
> is the fact a VIN plate was altered/changed and  is on another  vehicle.
> When
> you do something like this,  it's a no-no.   Utilizing VIN plates that are
> stashed in  desk drawers and utilized at their  discretion is not a smart
>  practice.  Bottom line - it shouldn't matter  whether it was done on  a
> Tiger,
> Alpine, Pinto, Honda or any other  car.  I  personally think a highly
> modified
> Alpine is a great way to  go  if you really want to drive and enjoy the 
car.
>   My
> '67 Alpine has the  correct numbers and is titled as such  because that's 
the
> right thing to  do.  I can cut, modify,  rearrange components and do 
creative
> things  involving the  installation of today's tech in the old sheetmetal 
and
> end up   with a very custom sportscar that can be enjoyed without fear of
>  losing
> a  Tiger shell at the intersection due to some kid texting  on her phone.
> I'm
> curious at the price the car sells for on  Ebay, mainly because it's a  
nice,
> clean sportscar that someone  put a lot of time and money into  creating.
> But
> the VIN  has been knowingly altered on the car,  irregardless of what car
>  it's
> from.  That's a red flag to me, and  should be to  others as well that 
have
> an
> interest in buying the  car.   Imagine the possibility of the car getting
>  confiscated due to unlawful  activity?  There's a possibility that  none 
of
> us
> will see the final  selling numbers due to the  listing being pulled if it
> becomes apparent that  there may be a  lawful issue.  Someone said it here
> earlier - the  original  Alpine numbers should have been retained and 
there
> wouldn't be  any  mistake as to what the car really is - an Alpine with a
>  motor
> transplant.  Just my  .02.
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