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Re: [Tigers] Mobil1/ Zinc additives

To: David Sosna <sosnaenergyconsulting@cox.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Mobil1/ Zinc additives
From: drmayf <drmayf@mayfco.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 06:52:53 -0700
The ZDDP additive I ha tried to post was from Eastwood.  ANd it was 
cheaper as I recall but that has been a few days ago and my mind is 
slipping some, lol.. Any body interested shoot me a pm and I will send 
particulars on the link to it

mayf
David Sosna wrote:

> Moss Motors offers something called Collectors Choice Engine Oil with 
> added Zinc for about $7.00 a quart--and a caveat that it isn't to be 
> used for cars with Catalytic converters (the Zinc and phosphorous in 
> ZDDP shortens Converter lifespan, which is the primary reason why it 
> was discontinued from most motor oils, and which I just noticed was 
> already mentioned below--grin).
>
> With reference to Mayf's earlier post about ZDDP additive (don't know 
> if you sent a follow-up, Mayf--if so, I didn't receive it either, so 
> if I'm covering the same ground over again, sorry!), Moss also sells 
> that for $11.00 a bottle.  At one bottle per oil change, its 
> six-of-one, half-dozen-of-the-other whether you go with the additive 
> or the oil that already has the zinc.  There's those who don't believe 
> in oil additives of any kind and want the oil to already have 'the 
> right stuff', and those who are okay with additives.  Pick your poison.
>
> Two other oils that are made with more zinc than the law allows 
> (listed, I believe, as racing oils) are Brad Penn and Torco.  The 
> Torco company also sells bottles of ZDDP additive.
> I believe the Brad Penn is a semi-synthetic blend of conventional oils 
> and synthetics--and, of course, the Zinc.
> Not sure about the Torco oil.
>
> The local mechanic that does most of the local Miata clubs cars says 
> he's shifted to Torco products for all the cars he works on.  He feels 
> that even newer mid- and late-ninties engines are at risk with this 
> drop in Zinc content.  His logic goes: "the cost to replace a 
> converter a little more frequently is cheaper than rebuilding an engine."
>
> Best Regards
> David Sosna
>
>
> arado7@sbcglobal.net wrote:
>
>> Mobil 1 has had it's zinc compounds reduced under law for catalytic 
>> converter protection. However, so has every other oil..The only way 
>> out is additives or perhaps Diesel oils. Full synthetic still 
>> outperforms conventional...  Gary B9472283
>> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Mobil1
>>
>>
>>> Mobil 1 is not recommended in older engines because it lacks 
>>> "cushioning
>>> agents" not needed in newer design engines.  It can cause 
>>> accelerated cam wear
>>> (like flat lobes in 5000 miles) .  Any good conventional oil is a 
>>> better
>>> choice.  Havoline and Valvoline and conventional Royal purple all 
>>> work great.
>>>
>>>
>>> Bob Bridgeford541 549 9539Sisters OR 97759
>>
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