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Re: Vin tags; the actual law

To: tigers@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Vin tags; the actual law
From: VegasLegal@aol.com
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 12:13:20 -0400
Dear List:

With this issue going all over the board, I went the extra mile and actually 
researched the issue.  The following is the Nevada statute on the issue.  The 
California law is similar, and the statute can be found at Cal. Veh. Code 
10750.  A second criminal statute also describes criminal sanctions, and is 
found at Cal. Veh. Code. 10802.

NRS 482.553 Unlawful destruction or alteration of number of motor or other part 
of motor vehicle or other mark of identification; placement of serial numbers; 
penalty.

        1.  A person shall not intentionally deface, destroy or alter the motor 
number, other distinguishing number or identification mark of a vehicle 
required or employed for registration purposes or the identification number or 
other distinguishing number or identification mark of a part of a motor vehicle 
which was placed or stamped on that part by the manufacturer pursuant to 
federal law or regulation without written authorization from the department, 
nor shall any person place or stamp any serial, motor or other number or mark 
upon a vehicle or the parts thereof except one assigned thereto by the 
department.  [Comment from me:  Note that it is the number that is not to be 
altered.  Removal for paint and reattachment in no way alters the number, and 
the number always remained the same.]

        2.  This section does not prohibit the restoration by an owner of the 
original vehicle identification number when the restoration is authorized by 
the department, nor prevent any manufacturer from placing in the ordinary 
course of business numbers or marks upon new motor vehicles or new parts 
thereof.  [Comment from me:  This section does not relate to removal and 
reinstallation.  This section addresses a recovered stolen vehicle or some 
other circumstance causing an actual defaced or destroyed Vin plate or tag.]

. . . 
4. Any person who violates any provisions of subsection 1 is guilty of a gross 
misdemeanor.

California also dealt with the Vin plates and tags in the case of People v. 
Joiner (Web address after quote below).  In construing the law, the court 
stated:

"Accordingly, our analysis begins with a review of the relevant language set 
forth in section 10802, which is as follows:
bAny person who knowingly alters, counterfeits, defaces, destroys, disguises, 
falsifies, forges, obliterates, or removes vehicle identification numbers, with 
the intent to misrepresent the identity or prevent the identification of motor 
vehicles or motor vehicle parts, for the purpose of
sale, transfer, import, or export, is guilty of a public offense .b&b
Section 10802 prohibits certain activities designed to intentionally 
misrepresent the identity of a vehicle or prevent identification of a vehicle 
or its parts. The language of the statute does not permit a construction that 
any activity designed to intentionally misrepresent the identity of a vehicle 
or prevent identification is sufficient. Had the
Legislature intended such a broad application, it would have used language such 
as bincluding but not limited tob altering, defacing, etc. vehicle 
identification numbers with
the requisite intent.

People v. Joinerb& 
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data2/californiastatecases/f028186.pdf

In this sense, there must be intent to misrepresent, and actual defacement or 
alteration.  The idea of removing a vin tag for paint and then reinstalling it 
being a crime just doesn't exist.

Again, this is not to suggest that flags won't be raised or explanations won't 
have to be made.  Prudence certainly dictates that you just leave the darn 
thing alone.  Still, no one is going to jail, and no car is being crushed, so 
long as the plate goes back on a Tiger it came off of and not a cute little 
underpowered effete Alpine.  (Actually, I like Alpines).

Bob Nersesian
B382000975

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