Scott, the smaller intake with longer runners is valid for intake
manifolds to make torque. I have never heard of this design for an air
intake.
If you look at any of the functional scoops on the drag cars, they are
all large to pack as much air as possible in a ram effect into the
intake system.
The pitot tube for air planes is as Tim describes.
Larry
Ronak, TP (Timothy) wrote:
> Scott,
> I still ascribe to the big surface area higher pressure per square inch at
> the carb theory. The other limitation is the laminar flow right against the
> hood working to diminish the actual working surface area of the opening. The
> old Ram air under bumper kits the Detroit guys put on the 60-70 muscle cars
> had 2-3 times the opening surface area of what was at the carburetor throat.
> The pitot tube point is valid but I thought the pitot tube was used to
> create a measured vacuum. I am certainly not a pilot nor an airplane expert.
> Probably the most significant opportunity is to obtain cool air from outside
> the engine bay.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Tim Ronak
> Business Development Manager
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>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Hutchinson [mailto:shutchin@netjets.com]
> Sent: April 29, 2003 8:28 PM
> To: 'Ronak, TP (Timothy)'; tigers@autox.team.net; drmayf@teknett.com
> Subject: RE: Fresh Air Induction
>
> Tim,
>
> Not sure that a larger scoop would help you out. In many ways having a
> smaller scoop with a long runner to the intake gives the best effect.
> Much like a pitot tube on an airplane.
>
> Scott
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ronak, TP (Timothy) [mailto:Timothy.Ronak@AkzoNobel.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 8:17 PM
> To: Timothy.Ronak@AkzoNobel.com; tigers@autox.team.net;
> shutchin@netjets.com; drmayf@teknett.com
> Subject: RE: Fresh Air Induction
>
> Well DrMayf,
> The air box will probably not make a huge difference on the chassis dyno
> as
> that is a static test without the car speeding down the road. I still
> will
> try the stock base and filter and then the flat base and taller filter
> to
> see if there is a gain due to filter size. Larry P. and I shared some
> discussion over this a few weeks ago. But I do plan on going to the Drag
> strip and see if the same 2 tenths of a second ET drop occurs that I
> have
> experienced on other cars where I installed a fresh air system (20 HP at
> speed due to a cooler denser charge of air). I suspect a 2 fold gain due
> to
> cooler air as well as a marginal 'Ram Air' effect although the scoop
> opening
> is not as large as I would like. Trying to keep it looking relatively
> stock.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Tim Ronak
> Business Development Manager
> Akzo Nobel Coatings
> Off: (949) 305-5393
> Fx: (425) 955-6268
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> email: timothy.ronak@akzonobel.com
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: DrMayf [mailto:drmayf@teknett.com]
> Sent: April 30, 2003 7:34 AM
> To: Ronak, TP (Timothy); Tiger News Group List (E-mail)
> Subject: Re: Fresh Air Induction
>
> Tim, now that you have it finished, are you going to dyno check the
> performance before and after? WOuld be interested in the numbers..
>
> mayf
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ronak, TP (Timothy)" <Timothy.Ronak@AkzoNobel.com>
> To: "Tiger News Group List (E-mail)" <tigers@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 1:27 PM
> Subject: Fresh Air Induction
>
>
>
>>Listers,
>>I finally got the project done and had several requests for plans,
>
> etc. I
>
>>have copied templates for the Fresh Air Box including measurements and
>
> a
>
>>"how to" article. Because the templates were 'life sized' they needed
>
> to
> be
>
>>copied on an Oversized copier. Kinko's really sticks it to you when
>
> you do
>
>>big snip
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