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>From: Bo Cheadle <bcheadle@montgomery.com>
>To: "'tiger technologies'" <tartanad@ix.netcom.com>
>Subject: RE: TUXXII
>Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 10:21:49 -0700
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>Having seen various comments from others, virtually all "negative" about
>the "concours" aspect of the Tiger event it seems that I spoke out of
>turn in reacting to Jeff Cushing's negative comments. Sounds like the
>concours wasn't. Been there, done that. My negative comments were
>directed to those who do not contribute yet bitch anyway and I jumped to
>the conclusion that Jeff was among those. Sounds like his comments about
>the concours were justified. Jeff, sorry about shooting my mouth off
>about those who shoot their mouths off... My pet peeve is those who make
>no contribution and then bitch at these events after others have worked
>their butts off. Sounds like the concours was a mess. Goose shit? Bo.
>
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>>From: tiger technologies[SMTP:tartanad@ix9.ix.netcom.com]
>>Sent: Thursday, June 26, 1997 10:05 AM
>>To: Bo Cheadle
>>Subject: RE: TUXXII
>>
>>Bo:
>>
>>How can you have any opinion at all since you didn't have the time to attend
>>TUXXII? No I did not win a trophy, but I never expected to. I drove 1,600
>>miles to have fun and enjoy other Tigers and their owners. And as for
>>contributing, this was an STOA event, not CAT, and my opinion or help was
>>never solicited by anyone. But it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure
>>out how to properly conduct a concours judging, particularly after Norm
>>Miller ran a 7 page document on judging criteria for months on the Internet.
>>
>>So before you blab any more out of hand with the little knowledge you posess
>>on the subject, get some facts under your belt.
>>
>>Jeff Cushing
>> At 12:42 PM 6/25/97 -0700, you wrote:
>>>So you are saying you didn't win anything right? I didn't even go due to
>>>scheduling problems but I know from past experience (and having read
>>>your post) that you made zero contribution to the effort but now you are
>>>sounding off as to the quality. How much do you think those folks who
>>>busted their asses to put this on were paid for the effort? I don't
>>>know you but you piss me off on principal.
>>>
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>>>>From: tiger technologies[SMTP:tartanad@ix17.ix.netcom.com]
>>>>Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 1997 12:01 PM
>>>>To: tigers@autox.team.net
>>>>Subject: TUXXII
>>>>
>>>>OPEN LETTER TO ALL TIGER OWNERS:
>>>>
>>>>While kudos are certainly in order for the hard work put in by STOA, Norm
>>>>Miller and CAT in organizing the recent gathering at Eureka, the event fell
>>>>far short of not just perfection, but even my modest expectations.
>>>>
>>>>I'm still scratching my head trying to figure out just what I received for
>>>>my $125 entry fee. No goodie bag. No dash plaque. No alternate activities
>>>>for those of us who didn't have a passion for autocrossing (and there are a
>>>>lot of us). Hell, not even meals except for a couple of box lunches and a
>>>>buffet dinner on awards night, which was a good feed, especially the berry
>>>>pie.
>>>>
>>>>There is so much to do up in that neck of the woods: great wooded drives
>>>>through ancient forests. A beautiful beach. Fishing trips for salmon and
>>>>sole. A restored old town. But all the planned events kept most of us just
>>>>yakking in the parking lot much of the time waiting for the "next" thing on
>>>>the meager schedule. And spending my time admiring that collection of
>>>>historic Tigers was wasted...I (and others) had their fill after the first
>>>>viewing. In short the substantial cost and efforts by folks like Steve
>>>>Alcala, Dan Walters, Senor Miller and others could have been better spent.
>>>>And if some funds could have been saved in paying the tab for shipping the
>>>>cars as well as expenses for selected attendees, maybe there would have
>>>>been
>>>>enough cash left over for a measely dash plaque or a $12 meal at the Samoa
>>>>Lodge.
>>>>
>>>>But the biggest disappointment (and embarassment) of all was the manner in
>>>>which the concours was conducted. Some of us spent a lot of time and a lot
>>>>of money in getting our vehicles prepared for this part of the event. It is
>>>>very important to have our cars properly displayed and judged by those who
>>>>use some set of guidelines. And there were guidelines, set forth by Norm
>>>>Miller many months ago. And we went about preparing our cars accordingly.
>>>>
>>>>That of course went out the window when we drove out to the marina only to
>>>>be ordered to drive over the grass (dry, dusty and full of goose poop) to
>>>>park. Hell, there was more dirt and dust on my car after that short 50 yard
>>>>drive than I got during my 750 mile sojourn to Eureka from LA!
>>>>
>>>>And what an insult to be forced to have our cars "judged" (and I use the
>>>>term loosely) by others in our class, not abiding by any set of guidelines
>>>>or point structure. In the stock class, for example, how a one-off custom
>>>>built prototype non-stock Harrington (as beautiful as it was) was
>>>>classified
>>>>as stock--and won is just beyond comprehension. The car is nowhere near
>>>>correct and yet it won over real stock Tigers that precisely fit proper
>>>>judging criteria. And as for the competency of the judges, wouldn't you
>>>>think a stock class owner would know that the rear window of a hardtop is
>>>>plexi, not glass? Not at Eureka. And there is even evidence of score total
>>>>tampering on at least one judging sheet. And the list goes on. And on. I
>>>>protest. This was no concours. It was just a show and shine. I could have
>>>>stayed home for one of those, there are at least five in my area every
>>>>weekend.
>>>>
>>>>One thing Eureka has taught me: TUXXIII will NOT be conducted in such a
>>>>manner. While I may have been lax in my local club participation, I will
>>>>now
>>>>get involved to help make Big Bear an event for everyone. There will be
>>>>lots
>>>>of activities for everyone. And all participants will even get a dash
>>>>plaque, even if I have to pay for them myself.
>>>>
>>>>A good number of Southern Californians attended TUXXII. Let's see how many
>>>>northlanders venture south next summer to enjoy our hospitality and ability
>>>>to put on an event with all family members in mind.
>>>>
>>>>As a point of reference, the Southern California Healey Club just had their
>>>>gathering at Big Bear this past weekend...45 cars strong. And the tab
>>>>including entry fee, meals AND hotel was just a shade over $200. But then
>>>>they didn't dust off some race car that never made the grade at LeMans to
>>>>eat up funds.
>>>>
>>>>The new friends made at Eureka and old acquaintances reignited and the
>>>>obvious hard work of the organizers still made the trip north and back
>>>>worthwhile. But a word of advice: next time, give us owners who spend time
>>>>on their cars doing things other than preparing for some banzai run through
>>>>orange cones some thought, and conduct a true concours event, not some
>>>>politically motivated, skewed "car show".
>>>>
>>>>This is just one guy's opinion...made after an exhausting 1,600 mile round
>>>>trip to Eureka.
>>>>
>>>>Jeff Cushing
>>>>Tiger Technologies
>>>>
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