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Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2020 10:32:36 -0500
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I used an alternator from a 1975 Camaro, IIRC.   Seems like I made an
aluminum cylindrical spacer and/or maybe cut down part of the alternator.
Should be in the archives somewhere.


On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 5:47 AM Kevin Valentine via Spridgets <
spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:

> Alt conversion written by Frank many years ago;
>
> *Alternator Conversion - by Frank Clarici*
>
> Items needed:
> 1 Mitsubitshi alternator
> 1 GM swoop alt. bracket
> 6'' of 3/8 id steel pipe
> 3/8 X 8" bolt and nut
> 3/8 drill bit
>
> This conversion allows the use of halogen headlamps, cd players, and ends
> your generator worries for good it also eliminates your Lucas voltage
> regulator. 2 hours is all the time it should take after you aquire all the
> needed items.
>
>    - 1st pick up a good used mitsubisi alternator from your local bone
>    yard, be sure it has a vee belt pulley and not a drive belt pulley, the
>    pulley should look like the one on your generator. Late 80s mazda or
>    mitsubitshi.
>    - Next, while at the bone yard pick up an alternator bracket from a GM
>    car or truck, it is curved, not straight like your generator bracket.
>    - Stop at a hardware store and pick up a 3/8 X 8 inch long bolt, nut,
>    and lock washer. Also ask the clerk for a 3/8 ID X 6 inch long galvanized
>    pipe nipple, and a new sharp 3/8 drill bit if you do not own one.
>    - Back at the Sprite, remove the generator and bracket from the front
>    of the engine.
>    - Hold the alternator up into position and site the curved bracket for
>    length, you may have to cut it down. Keep the slotted part towards the
>    alternator, cut the other end where it bolts to the engine.
>    - Now you may have to drill a 3/8 hole in the bracket to fit your
>    mounting point on the front of the engine, be sure your stock size fan belt
>    will fit before you drill. Now drill out the 5/16 " hole on the waterpump
>    ear to 3/8". Also drill out the rear mounting bracket hole to 3/8".
>    - Insert the 8" long bolt through the rear bracket into the alternator and
>    through the waterpump ear. ( this replaces the 2 5/16 " bolts from the
>    gen.) do not put the nut on yet.
>    - With the long bolt in place measure the space between the rear
>    bracket and the alt., cut a piece of pipe to take up the space, this is
>    better then a lot of washers, next cut another piece of pipe to fit in
>    between the alternator. Run the 3/8 drill bit through the pipes so
>    that the bolt fits snug inside the pipe.
>    - Mount the alternator tighten the fan belt check clearance at the
>    right shock it should be close but not touching it.
>
> Now for the wiring
>
>    - The large wire from the generator now goes to the large lead of the
>    alternator.
>    - The small (field) wire goes on one of the small terminals, this will
>    be your indicator warning lamp wire.
>    - At the voltage regulator remove the wire from terminal ( F ) remove
>    both wires from terminal ( D ) connect the smaller of the ( D ) wires to
>    the wire from ( F ).
>    - Connect the larger of the ( D ) wires to the wires from terminals (
>    A ) and ( A!) The only wire left on your regulator should be ( E ) the
>    ground , it's not needed.
>    - Start up the car and check for smoke leaking out of your wiring
>    harness, if no smoke you are successful.
>
> You can remove your regulator or use it as a junction box for the new
> wiring . If you use it as a Junction box you will have to cut out the guts,
> just be sure that the large brown, brown with blue, and brown with yellow
> wires are connected together, and that the small brown with yellow is
> connected to the small brown with green ( field to indicator lamp.)
>
> If you do NOT agree with these ideas, if you are "mechanically challenged"
> or are just down right "stupid" I suggest you perchase New parts from a
> supplier of your choice and have a local shop do this work for you.
> Frank Clarici (may be copied)
>
> On Sun, Mar 8, 2020 at 11:17 PM crusaderchuck55@aol.com via Groups.Io
> <crusaderchuck55=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
>
>> Does anyone have a spread of years and a car line manufacturer that is a
>> preferred candidate for an internally regulated alternator?
>> Monday I am going to the local U-Pull It junk yard.   There are numerous
>> candidates to shop there.  Obviously the more compact , the better for the
>> Midget.
>> I am open to suggestions as to what I should hunt for.
>> Thank you!!
>> Chuck
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I used an alternator from a 1975 Camaro, IIRC.=C2=A0 =C2=
=A0Seems like I made an aluminum cylindrical spacer and/or maybe cut down p=
art of the alternator.<div>Should be in the archives somewhere.</div><div><=
br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gma=
il_attr">On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 5:47 AM Kevin Valentine via Spridgets &lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net";>spridgets@autox.team.net</a>&gt;=
 wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px =
0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Alt conversion written by=C2=A0<span>Frank</span>=C2=A0many years =
ago;<div><br></div><div><p style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:&quot;Time=
s New Roman&quot;;font-size:medium"><a name=3D"m_-5722173006921558011_m_-66=
10100306654269354_Alternator"><strong><span>Alternator</span>=C2=A0Conversi=
on - by=C2=A0<span>Frank</span>=C2=A0<span>Clarici</span></strong></a></p><=
p style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;font-si=
ze:medium">Items needed:<br>1 Mitsubitshi=C2=A0<span>alternator</span><br>1=
 GM swoop alt. bracket<br>6&#39;&#39; of 3/8 id steel pipe<br>3/8 X 8&quot;=
 bolt and nut<br>3/8 drill bit</p><p style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:=
&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;font-size:medium">This conversion allows the us=
e of halogen headlamps, cd players, and ends your generator worries for goo=
d it also eliminates your Lucas voltage regulator. 2 hours is all the time =
it should take after you aquire all the needed items.</p><ul style=3D"color=
:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;font-size:medium"><li s=
tyle=3D"margin-left:15px">1st pick up a good used mitsubisi=C2=A0<span>alte=
rnator</span>=C2=A0from your local bone yard, be sure it has a vee belt pul=
ley and not a drive belt pulley, the pulley should look like the one on you=
r generator. Late 80s mazda or mitsubitshi.</li><li style=3D"margin-left:15=
px">Next, while at the bone yard pick up an=C2=A0<span>alternator</span>=C2=
=A0bracket from a GM car or truck, it is curved, not straight like your gen=
erator bracket.</li><li style=3D"margin-left:15px">Stop at a hardware store=
 and pick up a 3/8 X 8 inch long bolt, nut, and lock washer. Also ask the c=
lerk for a 3/8 ID X 6 inch long galvanized pipe nipple, and a new sharp 3/8=
 drill bit if you do not own one.</li><li style=3D"margin-left:15px">Back a=
t the Sprite, remove the generator and bracket from the front of the engine=
.</li><li style=3D"margin-left:15px">Hold the=C2=A0<span>alternator</span>=
=C2=A0up into position and site the curved bracket for length, you may have=
 to cut it down. Keep the slotted part towards the=C2=A0<span>alternator</s=
pan>, cut the other end where it bolts to the engine.</li><li style=3D"marg=
in-left:15px">Now you may have to drill a 3/8 hole in the bracket to fit yo=
ur mounting point on the front of the engine, be sure your stock size fan b=
elt will fit before you drill. Now drill out the 5/16 &quot; hole on the wa=
terpump ear to 3/8&quot;. Also drill out the rear mounting bracket hole to =
3/8&quot;.</li><li style=3D"margin-left:15px">Insert the 8&quot; long bolt =
through the rear bracket into the=C2=A0<span>alternator</span>=C2=A0and thr=
ough the waterpump ear. ( this replaces the 2 5/16 &quot; bolts from the ge=
n.) do not put the nut on yet.</li><li style=3D"margin-left:15px">With the =
long bolt in place measure the space between the rear bracket and the alt.,=
 cut a piece of pipe to take up the space, this is better then a lot of was=
hers, next cut another piece of pipe to fit in between the=C2=A0<span>alter=
nator</span>. Run the 3/8 drill bit through the pipes so that the bolt fits=
 snug inside the pipe.</li><li style=3D"margin-left:15px">Mount the=C2=A0<s=
pan>alternator</span>=C2=A0tighten the fan belt check clearance at the righ=
t shock it should be close but not touching it.</li></ul><p style=3D"color:=
rgb(0,0,0);font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;font-size:medium">Now fo=
r the wiring</p><ul style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:&quot;Times New R=
oman&quot;;font-size:medium"><li style=3D"margin-left:15px">The large wire =
from the generator now goes to the large lead of the=C2=A0<span>alternator<=
/span>.</li><li style=3D"margin-left:15px">The small (field) wire goes on o=
ne of the small terminals, this will be your indicator warning lamp wire.</=
li><li style=3D"margin-left:15px">At the voltage regulator remove the wire =
from terminal ( F ) remove both wires from terminal ( D ) connect the small=
er of the ( D ) wires to the wire from ( F ).</li><li style=3D"margin-left:=
15px">Connect the larger of the ( D ) wires to the wires from terminals ( A=
 ) and ( A!) The only wire left on your regulator should be ( E ) the groun=
d , it&#39;s not needed.</li><li style=3D"margin-left:15px">Start up the ca=
r and check for smoke leaking out of your wiring harness, if no smoke you a=
re successful.</li></ul><p style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:&quot;Time=
s New Roman&quot;;font-size:medium">You can remove your regulator or use it=
 as a junction box for the new wiring . If you use it as a Junction box you=
 will have to cut out the guts, just be sure that the large brown, brown wi=
th blue, and brown with yellow wires are connected together, and that the s=
mall brown with yellow is connected to the small brown with green ( field t=
o indicator lamp.)<br><br>If you do NOT agree with these ideas, if you are =
&quot;mechanically challenged&quot; or are just down right &quot;stupid&quo=
t; I suggest you perchase New parts from a supplier of your choice and have=
 a local shop do this work for you.=C2=A0<br><span>Frank</span>=C2=A0<span>=
Clarici</span>=C2=A0(may be copied)</p></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_=
quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Mar 8, 2020 at 11:17 P=
M <a href=3D"mailto:crusaderchuck55@aol.com"; target=3D"_blank">crusaderchuc=
k55@aol.com</a> via Groups.Io &lt;crusaderchuck55=3D<a href=3D"mailto:aol.c=
om@groups.io" target=3D"_blank">aol.com@groups.io</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><=
blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-l=
eft:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">







<div>
    <div style=3D"font-size:10pt"><div dir=3D"auto">Does anyone have a spre=
ad of years and a car line manufacturer that is a preferred candidate for a=
n internally regulated alternator?=C2=A0 =C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto">Mond=
ay I am going to the local U-Pull It junk yard.=C2=A0 =C2=A0There are numer=
ous candidates to shop there.=C2=A0 Obviously the more compact , the better=
 for the Midget.</div><div dir=3D"auto">I am open to suggestions as to what=
 I should hunt for.</div><div dir=3D"auto">Thank you!!</div><div dir=3D"aut=
o">Chuck</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div><div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"f=
ont-size:9pt"><i>Sent from my LG Mobile</i></div></div></div>


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