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RE: Brake Trouble!!

To: "'Guy R Day'" <grday@btinternet.com>
Subject: RE: Brake Trouble!!
From: "John Roberts" <robe3099@bellsouth.net>
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2006 19:03:41 -0500
Guy,

My split system does have the "H"-shaped pressure warning valve mounted on
my firewall.
In fact, it drips brake fluid a little bit.  It's not pouring out, but just
seeps out from time to time.

I am very puzzled by the no fluid at the rear driver's side cylinder.  That
could be caused by the "H" shaped valve shutting off the rear system,
though, correct?

Thanks!

John



-----Original Message-----
From:  Guy
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 6:08 PM
To: John Roberts
Subject: Re: Brake Trouble!!

You have only mentioned bleeding the front brakes.  If you haven't you 
should do the rears as well.

I take it your split system is one that splits in the m/cyl and does not 
have a separate shuttle valve.  (This is a 'H' shaped brass assembly a 
couple of inches from the M/cylinder mounted on the firewall.  If you have 
one of these all bets are off and you will have pushed the valve across when

you bled the fronts.)  If you are happy that you have built the m/cyl 
correctly look elsewhere first and adjust & bleed the rears is the next 
step.  If the motor is not being driven take the rear drums off, move the 
shoes away from the rear cylinders and clamp or tightly wire them closed - 
both sides.  Then bleed them.  You will find this a quicker and easier way 
to bleed them.  This way misses out any shoe adjustment hiccups.

You have had the comments in relation to the rear flexible pipe but from 
what you say it may not be that, it may just need the rear shoes adjusting 
correctly and then bleeding fully.

One way to check the rear flexible is to grip it GENTLY in your hand whilst 
someone presses the brake pedal and you will feel it going rigid forwards of

the point where it is blocked - if it is blocked.  Be wary the internal 
split may be right at the front end!
However, from what you say it may be they just need bleeding and adjusting. 
You CANNOT treat the front and rears as separate items when bleeding, they 
are joined by the m/cyl fluid and need to be treated as a whole.  (Otherwise

you can get spongy brakes!!!!!)

Best of luck




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