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To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Fw: Roller bearings HELP!
Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 11:12:39 -0400
----- Original Message -----
From "Deikis, John" <John.Deikis at med.va.gov>
To: "'Brent Wolf'" <wolfbj@prodigy.net>
Cc: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2003 8:39 AM
Subject: RE: Roller bearings HELP!


> You've got me worried!  I have not yet put the calipers back on.  I was
> thinking that this was a possible problem, but was just not thinking about
> it until I had to.  The inner bearing race seat may need to be turned down
a
> bit to give up the proper "alignment" for the caliper, but I have not
heard
> anyone mention this in discussing roller bearings.  My ball bearings are
> destroyed, so I hope I don't have that problem!  I'll let you know.  Maybe
> forward this to the whole list and see what comes back.
>
> Regarding the nut, I decided it was easier to have it turned down in a
lathe
> than for me to stand there with a file and work each of those slots.
>
> John
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brent Wolf [mailto:wolfbj@prodigy.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 8:08 PM
> To: Deikis, John
> Subject: Re: Roller bearings HELP!
>
>
> John,
>
> I have a question about this bearing replacement.  I tried it this past
> weekend also, ran into the same problem you did (couldn't get the cotter
pin
> in), but that didn't appear to be the only problem.  When I reinstalled
the
> hub, I put on new discs and new shoes. I had a real hard time trying to
> install the caliper.  When I got to looking, the caliper disc was not
> centering on the new disc. The disch was toward the outboard by about 1/8
> inch. Not enough to touch the caliper, but with new pads, the outer pad
was
> against the disc all the time causing drag, even before I set the brakes.
> So thinking I had done something wrong and needing the car, off came the
> hubs and in went the old bearings. No problem, hub slide on that 1/8"
more.
>
> With the bearings installed, are your calipers centered on the hub or are
> they positioned to the outboard side?
>
> I see you cut the nut down, I was thinking of making the slot deeper.
Don't
> know which is best.
>
> Thanks
> Brent
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Deikis, John" <John.Deikis@med.va.gov>
> To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>; "'Bob Kansa'" <swindrace@aol.com>;
> <KansaR@diebold.com>; "'Lawrie, Bob'" <robert.lawrie@controlcode.com>;
"'Mal
> Fay'" <Mal.Fay@toro.com>; "'Mike Gigante'" <mikeg@vicnet.net.au>;
"'Prewitt,
> Ben'" <prewitt5@bellsouth.net>; "'Smith, Dave'" <dtserve@aol.com>;
"'Spruck,
> Bob'" <bspruck@mindspring.com>; "'Van Kirk, Bob'" <Racerbob70@yahoo.com>;
> "'Ed at Justbrits'" <justbrits@attbi.com>
> Cc: <MGTD2@aol.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 8:38 AM
> Subject: Roller bearings HELP!
>
>
> > Sorry for bombing my "Address Book, Midget" with this blanket appeal,
but
> > I'm gettin' stressed!  I'm having a bit of a problem getting the front
> > spindle nut down far enough to reveal the cotter pin hole through the
> castle
> > slots.
> >
> > I reviewed all the archived stuff on switching from ball bearings to
> tapered
> > roller bearings up front, I bought the correct inner and outer bearings,
I
> > pressed in the outer races, inserted the bearings per usual way.  I put
on
> > the keyed washer and the castle nut.  I then followed the procedure
> > described in the archives by the Timken engineer who wrote back to one
of
> > the listers (Jeff Boatright?) on tightening and adjusting.
> >
> > I tightened the nut while turning the hub until I could no longer turn
it
> by
> > hand.  (pretty darn tight).  I suppose this should seat the bearings and
> > pull everything in to where it's supposed to be.  I then backed off the
> nut
> > until I could feel about .001-.003 endfloat (which was a bit more
backing
> > off than I had expected before I got the little bit of perceptible
> > movement).  Lo and behold, I can only see about half of the cotter pin
> hole
> > through the castle!  If I tighten down to where I can get in the pin, I
> have
> > no endfloat and the rotation of the hub is significantly tighter.
> >
> > Additional information:  I am using no shims and (after reading all the
> pros
> > and cons), decided to convert without the use of the center spacer.
> >
> > What should I do????
> >
> > Race day at VIR is quickly approaching.  :-(
> >
> > --JohnD

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