I don't think that the manual says anything special about it. I heard the
suggestion on the list and made my own observances about it.
If you or I were designing this MC to be installed like this, we would make
sure, if we could, to manufacture it in such a way that the hole from the
reservoir into the bore is at the lowest point. The actual configuration is
an unknown in my mind. Does anyone know???
Robert D.
( We think that we're going to take that engine out now. )
-----Original Message-----
>O.K. I concede. I'm still curious what the manual says for bleeding this
setup
>though.
>Mike
>
>Robert Duquette wrote:
>
>> Problem?
>>
>> I don't know about ounces, but I approximate that you get an extra coupla
>> pumps before you have to pull your head out of the footwell to top up
again.
>>
>> Obviously, it is of no concern to you with your bugeye. But would you
>> consider it to be a detriment to the excercise, if you had your bugeye's
>> rear jacked way up at the time that you had to bleed your MC to flush it?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>> >I still don't see what the problem is. Even thought the reservoir is at
>> the same
>> >angle as the footwell the clutch master would not run dry unless the
>> reservoir
>> >was almost empty. Just how much do you gain by leveling the master? An
>> eighth
>> >of an ounce or so?
>> >Mike MacLean Supercharged Level Reservoired 60 Sprite
>> >
>> >Robert Duquette wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hey Mike!
>> >>
>> >> I don't believe that the reservoir does sit level, but I have not
>> >> investigated the innards. A more level reservoir is the goal, as I
>> >> understand it. I could take a photo and post it or draw a picture and
>> post
>> >> it, but first, imagine this ( or try it ). Take a drinking glass and
put
>> an
>> >> inch of water in it. Now tilt it to about the same angle as the shelf
>> under
>> >> the bonnet that the MC is attached to. The upper part feeds into the
>> brake
>> >> line.
>> >>
>> >> Okay, pictures at 11 . . .
>> >>
>> >> First the MC in question. Notice the beer bottle and the liquid in
it.
>> >> Okay red was a bad choice!
>> >> http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/11/clutch_MC.jpg
>> >>
>> >> Now if you can imagine lifting the front end of the car, this happens:
>> >> http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/11/imitate_front_lift.jpg
>> >>
>> >> You may note that I did not lift the car, but merely put my finger
under
>> the
>> >> bottom of the front edge of the bottle.
>> >>
>> >> Another experiment that you can do involves volume. Stand a full
glass
>> of
>> >> beer upright and don't tilt it. The beer stays full ( unless you have
a
>> >> straw ). But if you were to tilt it to the angle of the clutch MC, it
>> would
>> >> not be able to hold as much volume of liquid and some would spill out,
>> >> because a liquid seeks its own level. ( Here come the engineers. )
And
>> >> that's what this whole thing was about. Mostly the volume of fluid
that
>> you
>> >> can put in the MC between pumping sessions. But also, that you won't
>> start
>> >> pumping air into the line as early with the same amount of fluid
because
>> the
>> >> fluid will be more level. ( I can't imagine how much you would have
to
>> lift
>> >> the front end to actually get the MC level. )
>> >>
>> >> Robert D.
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >>
>> >> >Even if it does slant down, doesn't the reservoir sit level? Are you
>> >> trying to
>> >> >level the bore or the reservoir?
>> >> >Mike MacLean Supercharged 60 Sprite
>> >> >
>> >> >Robert Duquette wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Yes, you would have the combined clutch and brake master, as in my
'65
>> >> >> Sprite and you are quite correct that it is level.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I spouted off with the image of my '67 Midget hydraulics in mind,
and
>> >> yes,
>> >> >> it does slant down towards the front at the same angle as the pedal
>> box
>> >> is
>> >> >> mounted. If you have O S&M, take a look at page 134.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> So, I stand ( sit actually ) corrected in that the advice does not
>> apply
>> >> to
>> >> >> all models. I found that it helped in that I could get a bit more
>> fluid
>> >> >> through the system between top ups.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Robert D.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >I don't know about the square bodied cars, but my MC is level when
>> the
>> >> car
>> >> >> is
>> >> >> >sitting level. How would you be expected to "top it off" if it
sat
>> on
>> >> an
>> >> >> angle?
>> >> >> >Does your driver's handbook say to park on a hill to fill your MC?
>> >> >> >Mike MacLean Supercharged 60 Sprite
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Robert Duquette wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> Front end up, was what I heard. It is supposed to make the MC
hold
>> a
>> >> bit
>> >> >> >> more fluid because you are levelling it out somewhat.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> RD
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > Didn't someone recently say that it helps if you raise the
back
>> of
>> >> the
>> >> >> >> car
>> >> >> >> >several inches because of the funny angle at which the slave
cyl.
>> is
>> >> >> >> mounted?
>> >> >> >> > Ed in NC
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