Larry,
I hope you do not mind my adding to your , very nicely done,
desertation. The M151 actually came out in the early 50s and served in
Korea to a limited extent. It was originally designed for the Marines
and provided good service in " That other police action ". I first
became familiar with them in the sixties and seventies with the
U.S.Army and they where very popular in Nam, too. I know of 2 here in
Eastern Wa. that are street legal and driven regularly. One belongs to
a fellow from Moses Lake that bought it surplus , cut in half, and
then reassembled it . He is a military type and it is outfitted with a
replica 50 cal. and mount. Very cool when seen cruising about. The
other fellow lives in Spokane and has a Military surplus store . He
got his in one piece but had it cut and lengthened ot fit in a chevy
six engine. There are some civilian ones to be had , but not many.
Such a pity,Brad
----- Original Message -----
From "Larry Cogan" <woodrat at spacey.net>
To: "Robert Van Kirk" <racerbob@hotmail.com>;
<spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2000 1:47 AM
Subject: Re: worth a look.... (not really LBC)
Robert: Au contrair. I spent my whole useable life in the Army and
am quite familiar with the M 151 and 151A1 "tactical vehicle". It was
fielded in the early sixties (circa 1961) as a replacement for the
M38. (A military version of a CJ 5). The 151 was designed to
optimize its off road capabilities and in this mode it was a major
improvement over the M38. It also happened to have, for its day, a
sports car feel......it waslight, it would go like snot; very
responsive engine, great gear box and would go places with less
punishment to its occupants than its predecessors. The vehicle was
not designed to be a highway car. It was placarded for a maximum hard
surface speed of 45MPH. The handling problem became acute when a
young/inexperienced, aggressive operator tried to play Stirling Moss
on the hard top. Now jeeps is jeeps and they have been rolling over
since their inception at the beginning of WW2. It is the nature of
the beast. The replacement for the M151 is the Hummer. So the roll
over problem is now solved by having an axle as wide as a football
field. The acquisition cost of the 151 was about $5000. Care to
guess how much our Uncle pays for each Hummer? Additionally, the
"HUM-V" cant go places that the 151 or M38 could go. The M151 was
never legally surplused, except as a cut up pile of steel. A pity, as
it was a really neat vehicle that got caught up in a Nader mentality
and was banished for all the wrong reasons. So relax Rick, your tax
money was well spent, at least until the bean counters and safety
"experts" got involved. Regards, Larry
----- Original Message -----
From Robert Van Kirk <racerbob at hotmail.com>
To: <HealeyRic2@aol.com>; <dthompson@gbc.ca>;
<spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 7:20 PM
Subject: Re: worth a look.... (not really LBC)
> Those aren't Mini Mokes, but genuine made in the USA military Jeeps
with
> independent rear suspension. They killed alot of GIs with their
terrible
> handling.
>
>
> >From: HealeyRic2@aol.com
> >Reply-To: HealeyRic2@aol.com
> >To: dthompson@gbc.ca, spridgets@autox.team.net
> >Subject: Re: worth a look.... (not really LBC)
> >Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 18:51:59 EDT
> >
> >In a message dated 10/27/00 9:03:58 AM, dthompson@gbc.ca writes:
> >
> ><<We LBC lovers sometimes take criticism for being a little weird.
But then
> >along comes someone else who makes all us nutcases look like
> >ballerinas.......
> >
> >http://www.olddeadcars.com/
> >
> >
> >In particular, check out the "weird" page and the video.
> >
> >Daniel T.
> > >>
> >
> >OK, first thing in the morning I start on a Bugeye jetcar. I've
heard
> >about
> >as much as I can stand of Toyota engine Sprites, anyway. Mini
Mokes and an
> >Amphicar? You're right, Dan. It doesn't get much weirder than
this.
> >
> >Rick
>
>
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