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Re: tube shocks

To: "John J. Black" <helejohn@neteze.com>, "Peter C." <nosimport@mailbag.com>, "Glen Byrns" <grbyrns@ucdavis.edu>
Subject: Re: tube shocks
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 06:41:37 -0000charset="iso-8859-1"
Cc: "spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <NEBBJLIBKLGHDKOPDHIIGENAEAAA.helejohn@neteze.com>
i had a set of adjustable rear armstrong lever shocks a long time ago and
sold them to a friend who needed them for his race car (and doing the
retrospect thing now regret that!).  wish i had that set
back.............hmmmmm.   he still has the car sitting in storage after all
these years you dont think.......................................?

chuck.
----- Original Message -----
From John J. Black <helejohn at neteze.com>
To: Peter C. <nosimport@mailbag.com>; Glen Byrns <grbyrns@ucdavis.edu>
Cc: spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 4:02 AM
Subject: RE: tube shocks


> Hi Guys
> Peter, I wholeheartedly agree with you that lever shocks are fine and
> superior to any poorly designed, fitted and set up tube system. I do not
> agree that lever arms are the best option in this particular case.
> As an example, do you know or can you build a lever arm that is adjustable
> for both bump and rebound with the simple turn of a screw or knob?
> Regards
> John J Black
> Waterloo Drivetrain Systems
> http://www.waterloo-dtr.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-spridgets@autox.team.net
> [mailto:owner-spridgets@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Peter C.
> Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 10:49 AM
> To: Glen Byrns
> Cc: spridgets
> Subject: Re: tube shocks
>
>
> As long as the moon is so big.........here comes my experienced opinion.
>          The only rationale for using a tube shock conversion on the front
> of a Spridget would be if you were planning to do some off-road pro
> rallying. Not because of damping ability, but as A means of strengthening
> the upper and lower suspension attachments. There is no advantage to be
> gained as far as damping is concerned. A poorly designed kit is actually
> worse and less safe. There is no reason for rear tube adaptation. This was
> fully discussed not long ago on the MGs list (and with apologies to
> Mr.Hefner) check the archives. I'm sure you realize that not all changes
> are upgrades.
>          Peter C
>          WFI... but realizing less than Mr. Black, I suspect.
> ---
> At 11:55 AM 10/17/2000, you wrote:
> >This is a question for folks like Frank who have had tube shocks and have
> >shifted back to lever shocks
> >
> >What do you feel are the pros and cons of such a conversion?
> >
> >  I currently have good condition lever shocks, but have already
installed
> >the hard points to mount tube shocks.  I would of course remove the valve
> >cores from the lever shocks after mounting the tubes.    I would have
> >thought that modern gas shocks would be 'smarter' in response to
different
> >magnitude jolts.  The kit I'm using is from WE Race Enterprises.  The kit
> is
> >from an old wreck, so I doubt the company is still around.  The tube
> >attaches to a post that is welded to a plate that mounts to the back side
> of
> >the A pan in a position similar to the sway bar link mount on the front
of
> >the A pan.  The upper mount is a bolt that passes through the wheel well
> >sheet metal to go into a bent up tab on a thick steel plate that mounts
on
> >top of the existing lever shock and reaches toward the rear of the car
far
> >enough to bring the shock vertical.  The shock ends up nearly vertical in
> >side view, with an inward tilt of the top of the shock in front view.
> >
> >Thanks for the benefit of your experience.  The $70 I'm about to sink
into
> a
> >couple of new gas tubes could be spent on the Morris if it is going to be
> >wasted on an upgrade that isn't.
> >
> >Regards,
> >Glen Byrns
> >'59 bugeye
> >'59 Morris Traveller (Winifred)
>
>
>


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