Larry,
Sorry, you're right. I took another look and "77 and later is the one page
they break out separately for Federal VS California. Federal is 10 degress
BTDC.
Gerard
At 3:29 PM -0400 8/3/00, Larry Macy wrote:
>I don't think so, But I will look tonight when I get home. I think the 2
>ATDC is for CA cars only (as I recall)
>
>Larry
>
>At this exact moment in time 8/3/00 14:13, pixelsmith@gerardsgarage.com
>made the profound statement:
>
>>Larry,
>>
>>You're looking at UK Spec engine page. U.S. 1977 and later is 2 degrees ATDC.
>>
>>Gerard
>>
>>At 10:51 AM -0400 8/3/00, Larry Macy wrote:
>>>Bill - Gotta go with Allen here. My Leyland Factory Manual for the 78
>>>says 10 BTDC.
>>>
>>>Larry
>>>
>>>At this exact moment in time 8/3/00 10:34, Ajhsys@aol.com made the
>>>profound statement:
>>>
>>>>In a message dated 8/2/00 8:17:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
>>>>wmgilroy@lucent.com writes:
>>>>
>>>><< I got my 77 Midget running today but I am having some problems as
>>>> usual. The car starts when hot, but is very hard to start when
>>>> cold. A bit of gas in the carb helps greatly. >>
>>>>
>>>>Sounds like the choke isn't closing. You might want to consider a manual
>>>>choke conversion. They are a lot more reliable.
>>>>
>>>><< I cannot get
>>>> the car to idle below 1200 RPM. When at an idle the RPM hunts
>>>> around by maybe 200 RPM. The timing also fluctuates with the
>>>> RPM. >>
>>>>
>>>>The timing is fluctuating because the vacuum advance is advancing as the
>>>>RPMs
>>>>go up. (Or is that RsPM? Grammar nazis, please help.)
>>>>
>>>><< Oil pressure is 45 PSI while hot at an idle and 65 PSI
>>>> when cold at an idle. >>
>>>>
>>>>That's real good. After my '77 heats up completely the pressure drops down
>>>>to less than 30 at a slow idle, and about 50 at 3500 RPM.
>>>>
>>>><< I have not pulled the plugs yet to
>>>> see what they look like. The point gap is set to .015 and
>>>> the timing is set to 2 degrees ATDC as per the shop manual. >>
>>>>
>>>>Hmmmm. My shop manual (Haynes, I think I used!) says 10 deg BTDC. I have
>>>>it
>>>>set at about 8 deg BTDC. Are you sure about that timing setting?
>>>>Maybe the
>>>>earlier dizzy would make the setting different, but that wouldn't be in the
>>>>manual. I will check my owners manual tomorrow when I pick up my car.
>>>>(Not
>>>>"pick up" but when I get my car. Gimme a break!) The 2 deg ATDC setting
>>>>might be for static timing the dizzy. If you need it, I'll bring my timing
>>>>light on Saturday and we can check it. Let me know.
>>>>
>>>><< I am running an earlier mechanical dizzy if that matters. Not
>>>> sure about all the vacuum lines (no wise comments). The
>>>> points, wire, and dizzy cap have less than 300 miles on them.
>>>> Fuel pump works great and I put in 2 filters, one before the
>>>> pump and one at the carb. The manufacturer of the pump recommends
>>>> one before the pump. It will be a PITA to change on the road
>>>> side when it clogs. >>
>>>>
>>>>If you think it is a vacuum leak, just buy a roll of vacuum hose and
>>>>replace
>>>>each one on the car. My car was desmogged so I only have the one vacuum
>>>>line
>>>>to the dizzy advance. You probably have more. Replace them one at a time
>>>>so
>>>>you don't get confused. I did that on my Mitsubishi. (It made no
>>>>difference
>>>>at all. Then I replaced the O2 sensor and fixed the problem.)
>>>>
>>>>I have one filter after my fuel pump. The mechanical fuel pumps on the
>>>>1500
>>>>Midgets are much more reliable than the electrical ones on earlier cars.
>>>>Plus, you don't have to put up with all that clicking noise.
>>>>
>>>>Keep on pluggin' Bill. I'll see you Saturday!
>>>>
>>>>Allen Hefner
>>>>SCCA Philly Region Rally Steward
>>>>'77 Midget
>>>>'92 Mitsubishi Expo LRV Sport
>>>
>>>
>>>Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
>>>macy@bblmail.psycha.upenn.edu
>>>System Administrator/Manager
>>>Neuropsychiatry Section
>>>Department of Psychiatry
>>>University of Pennsylvania
>>>3400 Spruce St. - 1015 Gates
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>>>
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>>
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>
>Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
>macy@bblmail.psycha.upenn.edu
>System Administrator/Manager
>Neuropsychiatry Section
>Department of Psychiatry
>University of Pennsylvania
>3400 Spruce St. - 1015 Gates
>Philadelphia, PA 19104
>
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