As WST pointed out, yes - the apex is late, but is at the same point
as if you used the traditional technique.
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Zurschmeide <zurschmeidej@interactivenw.com>
To: 'Mike Gigante' <mikeg@vicnet.net.au>; 'spridgets@Autox.Team.Net'
<spridgets@Autox.Team.Net>
Date: Thursday, October 29, 1998 9:24 AM
Subject: RE: Autox Sprite Handling Questions (actually driving technique)
>That jibes well with my race track technique (such as it is).
>Except that I'd add that you're definitely going deep and
>for a very late apex to make this work, right?
>
>JZ
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Mike Gigante [SMTP:mikeg@vicnet.net.au]
>>Sent: Thursday, October 29, 1998 12:09 PM
>>To: spridgets@Autox.Team.Net
>>Subject: Re: Autox Sprite Handling Questions (actually driving technique)
>>
>>
>>OK, here goes. I think I have rationalised what I do. I just do it on the
>>track,
>>I don't really think about it!!!!
>>
>>In normal hard driving (and in many "how to race" books), you approach
>>a corner at speed; hit the brakes; turn into corner still braking; apply
>>power
>>at the apex; accelerate out of corner.
>>
>>If you do this effectively, the weight transfer ensures that the inside
rear
>>is
>>well and truly unladen at the apex, and applying power will result in
>>wheelspin (948's aside :-). Once you have the wheelspin you have to back
>>off a little or straighten up. Either way, you've lost valuable corner
exit
>>speed
>>and your time will be *slow*!
>>
>>This is what I have done to avoid this. YMMV of course.
>>
>>I approach the corner, brake harder than anyone else ( :-), off the brakes
>>while still in a straight line and get back on the power at turn-in.
>>Actually
>>the process could be: off brakes, turn-in, allow the rear end to get a
>>little
>>loose, apply power *OR* off brakes, apply power and turn-in at the same
>>time *OR* off brakes, apply power, turn-in.
>>
>>I know it sounds stupid, but I
>>am not really sure how it ended up. I consciously tried all of these once
>>upon
>>a time and now I just do it. I'd actually have to think about it next time
>>I'm
>>on the track (Nov 7/8, Eastern Creek 6 hour relay race) to tell you which
I
>>actually use!!!
>>
>>Why do this? Well the weight transfer under acceleration is to the rear
>>wheels
>>and this means you won't lift the inside rear. Furthermore, applying full
>>power
>>like this (and a little opposite lock) gets the car into a proper 4 wheel
>>drift,
>>even in relatively low speed tighter turns.
>>
>>On really tight stuff, you'll definitely need to flick the back out by
>>turning in off
>>the throttle and get back on the throttle again in time to keep it from
>>spinning.
>>
>>As a result of all this, your corner exit speed will be high, you'll be on
>>the throttle
>>all the way through the bend and you'll have more fun than everyone else
>>too!
>>
>>I hope this is a good enough explanation. If not, you'll just have to be
>>passenger in my car and observe it for yourself!!!!
>>
>>Mike
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: CONAN@RALVM8.VNET.IBM.COM <CONAN@RALVM8.VNET.IBM.COM>
>>To: mikeg@vicnet.net.au <mikeg@vicnet.net.au>
>>Date: Tuesday, October 27, 1998 2:52 PM
>>Subject: Autox Sprite Handling Questions
>>
>>
>>>Ref: Your note of Wed, 28 Oct 1998 09:29:09 -0800
>>>
>>>>>Since I'll never be competing with you, I'm prepared to share this
info!
>>:-)
>>>
>>> Since I'M half a world away too; you wanna copy me on what you send
him?
>>> :-) Ed in NC ;-) (Just for my own info. I havn't run autocross
>>regularly
>>> in years.)
>>>
>>
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