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Re: sagging rear/advice

To: spitfires@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: sagging rear/advice
From: <jimmuller@rcn.com>
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 16:02:06 -0500 (EST)
Darrell, a.k.a. TR250Driver (though I don't know what a TR250 has in common 
with a Spitfire or GT6 other than the engine) wrote:
> What role do the front springs play?

It strikes me that there may be a question of terminology.

When some people talk about sag they are speaking of the body roll, i.e. the 
lean, toward the driver's side due to the driver's weight.  Since the frame 
doesn't twist, the front and rear must roll the same amount, but people tend to 
notice it only from the rear because that's the end you watch for extended 
periods of time when you're following someone.  At least on the swing-spring 
cars and to a lesser extent on all the other Spitfire-bassed cars, most of the 
roll stiffness is in the front.  So the rollbar and the balance between the 
front springs are the main determinants of roll.  The rear of the car simply 
leans left or right according to what the front dictates.  The driver's side 
spring would have a spacer to compensate for the driver's weight, to produce a 
level (laterally) car when only the driver's seat was occupied, or when the 
passenger's side was occupied by someone who might typically be much lighter.  
(I'm trying hard to avoid any gender imbalance here, probably!
  n!
ot succeeding. :-)

Other people speaking of sag might be referring to the nose-up attitude, i.e. 
pitch up, that happens when the back end drops.  Unlike your TR250 the 
Spitfire-based cars have a single transverse leaf spring, so when it (singular) 
weakens or if the axles are lengthened or the back bumper gains weight, the 
entire back end sags regardless of the roll.
--
Jim Muller
who driver the Spitfire to work today after a year of being without it


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