This message was sent to me off list, however since most of you were aware
of the other listings, I felt you should see the ending. (I hope!!) I since
have advised
Jason that any future off list messages will be promptly deleted.
To Jason: No where did I ever tell you to go to hell. My statement merely
stated that if you dislike America, then get to hell out and I haven't
changed
my mind on that!!!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jason" <jjcon2@yahoo.com>
To: <wmmk1@informatics.netSubject: Wise old Ben Franklin
> "Well, which did you give us, a monarchy or a republic?" asked the Lady
> of Mr. Franklin. Ben replied "A Republic, Madam, if you can hang onto
> it."
>
> How do we hang onto our Republic, Bill? With Blind Patriotism? Any
> thing our elected office holders do, anywhere in the globe is USA #1,
> A-OK with you as long as a Government official in a nice suit says so
> in a televised press conference?
>
> "The price of Liberty is eternal vigilance" some old dead white guy
> said . Sure he would include attacks from foreign powers, but more
> than that he was refering to the vices of our human nature. Greed,
> lust for money and power among them. But we don't have that problem in
> the US. There are never any scandals questioning the source of
> political donations (Wen Ho Lee and the PRC) and possiblity of
> treasonous behavior (like trading Nuke secrets for that money). Nope,
> our government is above the vices of all the rest of humanity, because
> it is composed of Americans.
>
> So you want me to go to hell because I encourage you to do your duty as
> a citizen and hold our governemt accountable for any of its
> shortcomings. It sure is big of you to tolerate my ideas and right to
> free speech by telling me to go to hell. The 1st amendment guarrantees
> the right of free speech, as long it is Politically Correct and no one
> is offended by what you have to say, else you should be censored and
> banished from the land. Nevermind that "Vigorous Discourse is
> essential to sustain Democracy"
>
> "Love it or leave it!" What kind of Love, Bill? The coddling,
> liberal, never discipline your child or you might hurt his self esteem
> kind of love that results in the such well behaved respectful youth we
> have today? You learned best when your drill sargent spoke to you in
> soft soothing tones, right? So should we love our government.
>
> Blind Patriotism, Blind (fundamentalist religious )Faith. What do
> these have in common. Hmmm. Oh it's obvious, they are both FUCKING
> DANGEROUS. Just ask any ex-Nazi or holocaust survivor, or equally
> sadly a surviving WTC employee.
>
> Fron Daniel Parrott
>
> " This to me is the definition of a liberal."
> HA, no not me. Libertarian. go to www.lp.org to learn the difference.
> (remember when Clinton had that pharmaceutical factory bombed when his
> "contact" with Monica became known? Another Foreign Policy action to
> be proud of, right Bill Mc D? Biggest criminal to EVER occupy the
> Whitehouse)
>
> There is no justification for these attacks. Period. I said that..."
> What we got yesterday was a big slap in the face (but not justifiable)
> for some past bad behavior."
>
> Did you feel this guilty and understanding about the abuses of the
> Federal Government that lead to the Oklahoma Federal Building bombing?"
>
> Guilty? No, I do things to try to keep our government honest.
> Understanding? I know WACO and Ruby Ridge scare me more than the
> mis-directed actions of McVeigh. Government agencies that lay seige to
> individuals who have not commited any violent crimes then lie about
> their activities have no justification. Period.
>
> PPS
> Bill, I got my citizenship. Right here.
>
> Best to all,
> Jason
> Note, I left this off the list
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