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To: "Simmons, Reid W" <reid.w.simmons@intel.com>
Subject: Re:
From: Jim <jdeatsc1@rochester.rr.com>
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 19:20:57 -0400
AND,  not to forget the banana peels in the crankcases to quiet noisy rods.

So help me.



"Simmons, Reid W" wrote:

> Actually, I heard that it was sawdust and STP that unscrupulous auto dealers
> would put into transmissions in order to mask any "uncharacteristic" noises.
> I guess a potential buyer was considered wise if he had the car inspected
> for termites before making a purchase commitment! :)
>
> Reid
> '79 Spitfire (original owner - and NO termites!)
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> From:   Barry Schwartz [mailto:bschwart@pacbell.net]
> Sent:   Thursday, October 14, 1999 7:00 AM
> To:     triumphs@autox.team.net
> Cc:     spitfires@autox.team.net
> Subject:        ? Motor oil usage in manual trannys
>
> >I don't understand where the use of motor oils in transmissions is
> >coming from. I have heard of people adding sawdust to their
> >transmissions to quiet them down to but that doesn't mean I am going to
> >do it. Using motor oil may be some mechanic's short term solution to a
> >bad rebuild, I don't know.
> *****************************************
> I believe that the motor oil usage, related to British cars in general,
> stems from those who have or have had MG's.  Certain models of MG's (* see
> below) use regular motor oil in the transmission, which is (also I believe)
> specified in the service manual, for use in those trannys.  (those who own
> MG's can validate that for me, and we KNOW who you are. . .:-})
>      However there may be specific differences which allow it's use in
> those boxes.  I would gather though, that the rear axle still specifies
> that hypoid gear oil be used (and for good reason).  The load's imposed in
> that assy are far greater and the shearing action of the hypoid gear is
> much more severe.  I'd bet that using motor oil in the rear end would lead
> to a very early demise of the ring and pinion.  It is interesting to note
> that while hypoid gears have a much more aggressive "sliding action" over a
> broader area of gear teeth by their design, helical cut gears still do the
> same thing, but to a much lesser degree.  It would also be interesting to
> see if the trend of using motor carries over to the later Midget which uses
> the Spitfire/Marina single rail gearbox.  I'll bet that it specifies gear
> oil for those :-)
> As for the sawdust, that's an old sellers/bad mechanics trick to quiet a
> noisy transmission to sell, or get rid of the car, without fixing the
> problem-
>
> *and quite possibly other models.  My Borg/Warner T5 five speed manual,
> specifies ONLY Dextron II/III automatic transmission fluid [fluif] be used
>
> Barry Schwartz (San Diego) bschwart@pacbell.net
>
> 72 PI, V6 Spitfire (daily driver)
> 70 GT6+ (when I don't drive the Spit)
> 70 Spitfire (long term project)

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