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To: john niolon <jniolon@att.net>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] shop internet connection
From: MIQ MILLMAN <miq@bigllama.com>
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2025 13:26:21 -0800
Cc: shop-talk <shop-talk@autox.team.net>
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As others have said, the old laptop is probably running within specs.
Wifi-BGN is going to peak throughput of about 38-40 mbps.

The latest spec for Wifi (aka Wifi-6) is 802.11ax or just AX as a
designation to differentiate from the past "livingroom" standard of
802.11ac.

Both of these are overkill for what you want/need, ac peaks at 3.5Gbps, and
ax peaks at 9.6Gbps.

The Toshiba you have also has a limit of 100 Mbps on the ethernet port
built in.   So, even if you went with a cheap "hardwire solution" and tried
to connect a switch to the ethernet port on the Orbi, you would still be
limited to what the older laptop can manage.

It's also possible that the version Orbi you have is only capable of
802.11ac, you don't mention which version you have, but they still
sell/support the older versions, and the price is rather steep for the
latest versions

Even if you were to replace/upgrade to a usb dongle wifi connection, it
would be limited to the speed of USB 2.0 and the older bus speeds in the
Toshiba.  Also not sure that spending $35 on a wifi adapter is the best use
of funds.... (e.g.  TP-Link AX1800 can plug into a standard USB a port, but
the laptop would not be able to support the speeds.)

If you are on a budget, I would look at chromebooks as an option,

here's a not terrible option from Lenovo for $250 from the 'zon:
https://a.co/d/am8aVRV

All that said, most of the world runs just fine on 20-30 Mbps.

  --Miq



On Thu, Jan 2, 2025 at 10:34=E2=80=AFAM john niolon <jniolon@att.net> wrote=
:

> I'm trying to get better internet connectivity in my detached
> garage/shop.  First tried hardwired cat-5 but it was right at the limit f=
or
> distance and slow and intermittent.  Next went with power line adapters a=
nd
> while they were consistent in connection...speed was still slower than I
> wanted...
>
> This Christmas my s-I-l gave me a Orbi mesh system and we installed it
> with no problem putting one satellite box IN the garage and the master bo=
x
> sitting on top of my fiber modem hard wired to the modem.
>
> I have 300mb fiber from ATT and the speed is great (350-375 MB) to
> hardwired pc and around 140 mb on ipad in the house or in the garage.
> I have an older laptop I use in the shop (Toshiba Satellite L875D-st210)
> which is my primary shop machine.  Best speed I can get is 30-40 mb.
> while the tablet sitting next to it is 140 mb+.
>
> I'm wondering if the old laptop has a wireless card that is old and
> slower?  Everything I knew about computers is old and obsolete after 20
> years out of the business.  Can someone with current knowledge tell me if
> the problem is with an antiquated card in the laptop and is there a way t=
o
> get better wireless speed on the laptop?  or is that just the nature of
> wireless nowadays? BTW the laptop is running windows 7 with no options to
> run win 10.
>
>
> thanks
> John
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<div dir=3D"ltr">As others have said, the old laptop is probably running wi=
thin=C2=A0specs.=C2=A0 Wifi-BGN is going to peak throughput of about 38-40 =
mbps.<div><br></div><div>The latest spec for Wifi (aka Wifi-6) is 802.11ax =
or just AX as a designation to differentiate from the past &quot;livingroom=
&quot; standard of 802.11ac.</div><div><br></div><div>Both of these are ove=
rkill for what you want/need, ac peaks at 3.5Gbps, and ax peaks at 9.6Gbps.=
</div><div><br></div><div>The Toshiba you have also has a limit of 100 Mbps=
 on the ethernet port built in.=C2=A0 =C2=A0So, even if you went with a che=
ap &quot;hardwire solution&quot; and tried to connect a switch to the ether=
net port on the Orbi, you would still be limited to what the older laptop=
=C2=A0can manage.</div><div><br></div><div>It&#39;s also possible that the =
version Orbi you have is only capable of 802.11ac, you don&#39;t mention wh=
ich version you have, but they still sell/support the older=C2=A0versions, =
and the price is rather steep for the latest versions</div><div><br></div><=
div>Even if you were to replace/upgrade to a usb dongle wifi connection, it=
 would be limited to the speed of USB 2.0 and the older bus speeds in the T=
oshiba.=C2=A0 Also not sure that spending $35 on a wifi adapter is the best=
 use of funds.... (e.g.=C2=A0 TP-Link AX1800 can plug into a standard USB a=
 port, but the laptop would not be able to support the speeds.)</div><div><=
br></div><div>If you are on a budget, I would look at chromebooks as an opt=
ion,=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>here&#39;s a not terrible option from L=
enovo for $250 from the &#39;zon:</div><div><a href=3D"https://a.co/d/am8aV=
RV">https://a.co/d/am8aVRV</a></div><div><br></div><div>All that said, most=
 of the world runs just fine on 20-30 Mbps.</div><div><br></div><div>=C2=A0=
 --Miq<br><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail=
_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu,=
 Jan 2, 2025 at 10:34=E2=80=AFAM john niolon &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jniolon@=
att.net">jniolon@att.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail=
_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204=
,204);padding-left:1ex">

<div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">I&#39;m trying to get better internet connecti=
vity in my detached garage/shop.=C2=A0 First tried hardwired cat-5 but it w=
as right at the limit for distance and slow and intermittent.=C2=A0 Next we=
nt with power line adapters and while they were consistent in connection...=
speed was still slower than I wanted...</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"></font>=C2=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">This Christmas my s-I-l gave me a Orbi mesh sy=
stem and we installed it with no problem putting one satellite box IN the g=
arage and the master box sitting on top of my fiber modem hard wired to the=
 modem.</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"></font>=C2=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">I have 300mb fiber from ATT and the speed is g=
reat (350-375 MB)=C2=A0to hardwired pc and around 140 mb on ipad in the hou=
se or in the garage.=C2=A0 </font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">I have an older laptop I use in the shop (Tosh=
iba Satellite L875D-st210) which is my primary shop machine.=C2=A0 Best spe=
ed I can get is 30-40 mb.</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">while the tablet sitting next to it is 140 mb+=
.</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"></font>=C2=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">I&#39;m wondering if the old laptop has a wire=
less card that is old and slower?=C2=A0 Everything I knew about computers i=
s old and obsolete after 20 years out of the business.=C2=A0 Can someone wi=
th current knowledge tell me if the problem is with an antiquated card in t=
he laptop and is there a way to get better wireless speed on the laptop?=C2=
=A0 or is that just the nature of wireless nowadays? BTW=C2=A0the laptop=C2=
=A0is running windows 7 with no options to run win 10.</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"></font>=C2=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"></font>=C2=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">thanks</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">John</font></div></div>_______________________=
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