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To: old dirtbeard <dirtbeard@gmail.com>, "Tim ." <tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Home surveillance system
From: Brian Kemp <bk13@earthlink.net>
Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2024 10:07:14 -0700
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Tim - I second Old Dirtbeard's response below for a quick solution. 
Rings work well and are easy to install if you have strong WiFi at each 
location.  Rings need about 5Mbps upload speeds, so my initial DSL 
didn't cut it.  I have a Ring doorbell that is fantastic now that I have 
a better ISP.  It is only a few dollars a month of the online package 
that saves a month of recordings.  The motion detection alerts are good 
as well.  It can be triggered by moths at night, but otherwise is great.

My property is spread out vertically and horizontally and I don't have 
good WiFi coverage for a full wireless system, so I put in a wired PoE 
NVR (Network video recorder) system.  PoE is Power over Ethernet so each 
camera is wired with a single cat5e cable.  The advantage of this is 
that there are no solar panels to try and get sun, batteries to monitor, 
or 110v power needed.  The cameras can also be more discrete.  I have a 
4K eight camera system from Lorex bought on sale from Costco.  Video 
quality is great.  The price was good, but the false positives for 
motion detection caused me to turn off the alerts.

My system came with a base network box with a hard drive about the size 
of a dictionary and the cameras.  For most of the cameras I used the 
supplied network cables.  For the other cameras I bought a 500' box of 
cat5e cable and made my own longer cables.  It is pretty easy to make 
cables.  I also have a battery backup (UPS) powering the NVR and my 
internet modem.  I can use my phone and the Lorex app to check each 
camera remotely.  There is no monthly fee because everything is stored 
on the hard drive of the NVR in my house.

You can also get a simple camera that records with a SD memory card.  If 
you go this route, pay extra for a surveillance system quality card that 
is capable of continuous recording.  Any current system that records 
will overwrite old recordings so there is no need to delete anything.  
The bigger the memory, the longer recordings are saved.

If you want to read a bunch on this topic, https://ipcamtalk.com/ is 
very good.

Brian


On 6/8/2024 7:45 AM, old dirtbeard wrote:
> Hi Tim,
>
> I know that you said you do not want a Ring camera and would like 
> professional installation, but I would like to offer an option.
>
> I currently have three Ring cameras that are wireless and solar 
> powered. It really is a simple matter of powering them up and 
> connecting to your WiFi. I believe it is about $50.yr for the 24 
> service for unlimited number of cameras, you can monitor 
> multiple cameras simultaneously from your phone or on your computer, 
> have them send alerts that you can configure, you can activate them 
> "live" with click to monitor what is going on, you can speak through 
> them or activate a light, etc.
>
>  I believe they are warranteed for life with the annual service fee 
> (free replacement, including postage, I have needed to send one back 
> that failed after about ten years).
>
> I think it is a very good deal.
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 8, 2024 at 7:22â?¯AM Tim . <tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com> 
> wrote:
>
>     After yet another issue with a crazy neighbor (had to call the
>     police TWICE in two hours), I have decided it's time to install a
>     surveillance system of some sort. I don't want a single ring
>     camera as I need at least three cameras.
>
>     I am hoping for self installation and simple use, but will have it
>     done professionally.
>
>     Thoughts please, especially if you have direct knowledge from use.
>
>     Thanks
>     tim
>
>
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    Tim - I second Old Dirtbeard's response below for a quick solution. 
    Rings work well and are easy to install if you have strong WiFi at
    each location.  Rings need about 5Mbps upload speeds, so my initial
    DSL didn't cut it.  I have a Ring doorbell that is fantastic now
    that I have a better ISP.  It is only a few dollars a month of the
    online package that saves a month of recordings.  The motion
    detection alerts are good as well.  It can be triggered by moths at
    night, but otherwise is great.<br>
    <br>
    My property is spread out vertically and horizontally and I don't
    have good WiFi coverage for a full wireless system, so I put in a
    wired PoE NVR (Network video recorder) system.  PoE is Power over
    Ethernet so each camera is wired with a single cat5e cable.  The
    advantage of this is that there are no solar panels to try and get
    sun, batteries to monitor, or 110v power needed.  The cameras can
    also be more discrete.  I have a 4K eight camera system from Lorex
    bought on sale from Costco.  Video quality is great.  The price was
    good, but the false positives for motion detection caused me to turn
    off the alerts.<br>
    <br>
    My system came with a base network box with a hard drive about the
    size of a dictionary and the cameras.  For most of the cameras I
    used the supplied network cables.  For the other cameras I bought a
    500' box of cat5e cable and made my own longer cables.  It is pretty
    easy to make cables.  I also have a battery backup (UPS) powering
    the NVR and my internet modem.  I can use my phone and the Lorex app
    to check each camera remotely.  There is no monthly fee because
    everything is stored on the hard drive of the NVR in my house.<br>
    <br>
    You can also get a simple camera that records with a SD memory
    card.  If you go this route, pay extra for a surveillance system
    quality card that is capable of continuous recording.  Any current
    system that records will overwrite old recordings so there is no
    need to delete anything.  The bigger the memory, the longer
    recordings are saved.<br>
    <br>
    If you want to read a bunch on this topic, <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" 
href="https://ipcamtalk.com/";>https://ipcamtalk.com/</a> is
    very good.<br>
    <br>
    Brian<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/8/2024 7:45 AM, old dirtbeard
      wrote:<br>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Hi Tim, </div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br>
        </div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I know that
          you said you do not want a Ring camera and would like
          professional installation, but I would like to offer an
          option.</div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br>
        </div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I currently
          have three Ring cameras that are wireless and solar powered.
          It really is a simple matter of powering them up and
          connecting to your WiFi. I believe it is about $50.yr for the
          24 service for unlimited number of cameras, you can monitor
          multiple cameras simultaneously from your phone or on your
          computer, have them send alerts that you can configure, you
          can activate them "live" with click to monitor what is going
          on, you can speak through them or activate a light, etc.</div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br>
        </div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"> I
          believe they are warranteed for life with the annual service
          fee (free replacement, including postage, I have needed to
          send one back that failed after about ten years).</div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br>
        </div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I think it is
          a very good deal.</div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br>
        </div>
      </div>
      <br>
      <div class="gmail_quote">
        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Jun 8, 2024 at 7:22â?¯AM
          Tim . &lt;<a href="mailto:tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com";
            moz-do-not-send="true" 
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com</a>&gt;
          wrote:<br>
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              <div
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                After yet another issue with a crazy neighbor (had to
                call the police TWICE in two hours), I have decided it's
                time to install a surveillance system of some sort. I
                don't want a single ring camera as I need at least three
                cameras. </div>
              <div
style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">
                <br>
              </div>
              <div
style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">
                I am hoping for self installation and simple use, but
                will have it done professionally. </div>
              <div
style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">
                <br>
              </div>
              <div
style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">
                Thoughts please, especially if you have direct knowledge
                from use. </div>
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style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">
                <br>
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                Thanks</div>
              <div
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                tim</div>
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                <br>
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