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Re: [Shop-talk] LED motion lights

To: eric@megageek.com
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] LED motion lights
From: Paul Parkanzky <parkanzky@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2023 11:27:07 -0400
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That's a failure in the photocell or a mismatch between the bulb used and
the photocell. The photocell can't be sensitive to the light the fixture
puts out or it will see that it is dark, turn the light on, 'think' "Oh
it's light now!" and turn the light off, at which point it will see that
it's dark and restart the loop.

-Paul

On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 4:28=E2=80=AFPM <eric@megageek.com> wrote:

> I guess I should have stated that I've been having problems finding one
> for decades.  I had the old style with screw in bulbs (BEFORE there were
> even LEDs.)  I've tried the build in LEDs.
>
> They mostly fail by either never turning off, or never turning on (and
> yes, I'm aware that some have 'overrides' where you turn it and off with
> the switch and it works normal, this wasn't the case.)  the last one woul=
d
> flash on and off constantly and night.
>
>
>
> From:        Jimmie Mayfield <mayfield+shoptalk@sackheads.org>
> To:        shop-talk@autox.team.net
> Date:        06/28/2023 11:03 AM
> Subject:        Re: [Shop-talk] LED motion lights
> Sent by:        "Shop-talk" <shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net>
> ------------------------------
>
>
>
> Any ideas what the failure mode was for the fixtures that have died?  Wer=
e
> they the style that had non-replaceable LEDs or were they the old-school
> style that use screw-in bulbs?
>
>
>
> On 6/28/23 07:45, *eric@megageek.com* <eric@megageek.com> wrote:
> Ob Shop Content, I need these all around my shop!  8>)
>
> braintrust...
>
> I have been in a constant battle to find an LED outdoor motion light that
> will work for more than a year or two.
>
> I've tried cheap ones, expensive ones, and nearly everything in between.
>
> Can someone recommend a brand/model that they have had good success with?
>  I am looking for hardwired ones only, not the solar battery ones.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Moose
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<div dir=3D"ltr">That&#39;s a failure in the photocell or a mismatch betwee=
n the bulb used and the photocell. The photocell can&#39;t be sensitive to =
the light the fixture puts out or it will see that it is dark, turn the lig=
ht on, &#39;think&#39; &quot;Oh it&#39;s light now!&quot; and turn the ligh=
t off, at which point it will see that it&#39;s dark and restart the loop.<=
div><br></div><div>-Paul</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 4:28=E2=80=AFPM &lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:eric@megageek.com";>eric@megageek.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></d=
iv><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;bord=
er-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><font size=3D"2" face=
=3D"sans-serif">I guess I should have stated that I&#39;ve
been having problems finding one for decades.=C2=A0 I had the old style
with screw in bulbs (BEFORE there were even LEDs.) =C2=A0I&#39;ve tried the
build in LEDs.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">They mostly fail by either never t=
urning
off, or never turning on (and yes, I&#39;m aware that some have &#39;overri=
des&#39;
where you turn it and off with the switch and it works normal, this wasn&#3=
9;t
the case.) =C2=A0the last one would flash on and off constantly and night.<=
/font>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"1" color=3D"#5f5f5f" face=3D"sans-serif">From: =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0
=C2=A0</font><font size=3D"1" face=3D"sans-serif">Jimmie Mayfield &lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:mayfield%2Bshoptalk@sackheads.org"; target=3D"_blank">mayfield+=
shoptalk@sackheads.org</a>&gt;</font>
<br><font size=3D"1" color=3D"#5f5f5f" face=3D"sans-serif">To: =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0
=C2=A0</font><font size=3D"1" face=3D"sans-serif"><a href=3D"mailto:shop-ta=
lk@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">shop-talk@autox.team.net</a></font>
<br><font size=3D"1" color=3D"#5f5f5f" face=3D"sans-serif">Date: =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0
=C2=A0</font><font size=3D"1" face=3D"sans-serif">06/28/2023 11:03 AM</font=
>
<br><font size=3D"1" color=3D"#5f5f5f" face=3D"sans-serif">Subject: =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0
=C2=A0 =C2=A0</font><font size=3D"1" face=3D"sans-serif">Re: [Shop-talk]
LED motion lights</font>
<br><font size=3D"1" color=3D"#5f5f5f" face=3D"sans-serif">Sent by: =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0
=C2=A0 =C2=A0</font><font size=3D"1" face=3D"sans-serif">&quot;Shop-talk&qu=
ot;
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">s=
hop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt;</font>
<br>
<hr noshade>
<br>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"3">Any ideas what the failure mode was for the fixtures t=
hat
have died?=C2=A0 Were they the style that had non-replaceable LEDs or were
they the old-school style that use screw-in bulbs?</font>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"3">On 6/28/23 07:45, </font><a href=3D"mailto:eric@megage=
ek.com" target=3D"_blank"><font size=3D"3" color=3D"blue"><u>eric@megageek.=
com</u></font></a><font size=3D"3">
wrote:</font>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Ob Shop Content, I need these all =
around
my shop! =C2=A08&gt;)</font><font size=3D"3"> <br>
</font><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
braintrust...</font><font size=3D"3"> <br>
</font><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
I have been in a constant battle to find an LED outdoor motion light that
will work for more than a year or two.</font><font size=3D"3"> <br>
</font><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
I&#39;ve tried cheap ones, expensive ones, and nearly everything in between=
.</font><font size=3D"3">
<br>
</font><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
Can someone recommend a brand/model that they have had good success with?
=C2=A0I am looking for hardwired ones only, not the solar battery ones.</fo=
nt><font size=3D"3">
<br>
</font><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
Thanks.</font><font size=3D"3"> <br>
</font><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
Moose</font><font size=3D"3"> </font>
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