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I think Dad knew more about metalworking than I. Think he forged it rather
than grinding. It was of course spring steel, and I think he knew how to
treat it. Oil or water quenching, that sort of thing.
I don't know when or where he made it. Mechanics Arts High School?
Superior Packing? Steve Ethier and Sons Keating? US Navy? Surely not at
the City of Saint Paul Building Department, but in those years the family
business was still in operation. He also had buddies all over town who had
businesses in the trades.
My guess is that he forged the ends first and then put in the small bend,
then put in the big bend. I would not be surprised to learn that the edges
of the main part are original.
I'm sure there are folks on Shop-talk who know just how to do this.
I have not checked YouTube yet, but it's probably there.
On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 5:36 AM Mark Watson <watsonm05@comcast.net> wrote:
> Phil,
>
> That tool is pretty cool! And to have a tool your father made is even
> cooler!
>
> Now that I see it I can imagine times when I'd want it instead of one of
> the other prybars I already have.
>
> Do you have any idea how he made it? I'm asking about how he bent it -
> the ends could be done by an angle grinder. My first thought for bending
> it would be heat but that would take out the springiness, wouldn't it?
>
> Thanks for sharing!
>
> Mark
> 1956 Daimler Regency Mk II '104' patiently awaiting attention
> 1995 Buick Century - my 'modern' daily driver ;-)
> 2001 Ford E150 Traveler van with wheelchair lift - almost 80,000 miles -
> obviously we almost exclusively use it to transport our handicapped son -
> I'm more worried about this dying due to lack of driving than getting worn
> out
> A couple of other transportation pods (2005 Toyota Corolla, 2007 Ford
> Fusion)
>
> On 02/14/2023 7:56 PM Philip Ethier <pethier7@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Now I have a set of MG TF leaf springs that I removed and I do not
> know what to do with them.
>
> I suppose I could make knives or something...
>
> I still have the wrecking bar my father made out of a car spring.
> Probably in the 1940s or 1950s. It is very useful for trim in houses and
> as a foot-lever for hanging doors.
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/pethier/52689555023
>
>
>
>
> Phil Ethier West Side Saint Paul Minnesota USA
> 1973 Triumph Stag LE22439UBW "uncle jack", Sapphire Blue
> 2004 Suburban 8.1, Sport Red
> 2005 Lotus Elise, Bordeaux Red Pearl - gone but not forgotten
> 2006 Gulf Stream Conquest Super C, 8.1, White
> 2011 Porsche Cayman 2.9 PDK
> 2017 Ford Fusion SE 2.0 Turbo, Oxford White
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1973 Triumph Stag LE22439UBW "uncle jack", Sapphire Blue
2004 Suburban 8.1, Sport Red
2005 Lotus Elise, Bordeaux Red Pearl
2006 Gulf Stream Conquest Super C, 8.1, White
2017 Ford Fusion SE 2.0 Turbo, Oxford White
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">I think Dad knew more about metalworking=
=C2=A0than I.=C2=A0 Think he forged it rather than grinding.=C2=A0 It was o=
f course spring steel, and I think he knew how to treat it.=C2=A0 Oil or wa=
ter quenching, that sort of thing.=C2=A0 =C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">I don't know when or where he made it.=C2=A0 Mech=
anics Arts High School?=C2=A0 Superior Packing?=C2=A0 Steve Ethier and Sons=
Keating?=C2=A0 US Navy? Surely not at the City of Saint Paul Building Depa=
rtment, but in those years the family business was still in operation.=C2=
=A0 He also had buddies all over town who had businesses in the trades.</di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div>My guess is that he forged the ends first=
and then put in the small bend, then put in the big bend.=C2=A0 I would no=
t be surprised to learn that the edges of the main part are original.</div>=
<div><br></div><div>I'm sure there are folks on Shop-talk who know just=
how to do this.=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>I have not checked Yo=
uTube yet, but it's probably there.</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"=
><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 5:36 AM Mark=
Watson <<a href=3D"mailto:watsonm05@comcast.net";>watsonm05@comcast.net<=
/a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0=
px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><=
u></u>
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:rgb(51,51,51)">
<span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt">Phil,</span>
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color=
:rgb(51,51,51)">
<span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt"><br></span>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color=
:rgb(51,51,51)">
<span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt">That tool is pretty=
cool!=C2=A0 And to have a tool your father made is even cooler!</span>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color=
:rgb(51,51,51)">
<span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt"><br></span>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color=
:rgb(51,51,51)">
<span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt">Now that I see it I=
can imagine times when I'd want it instead of one of the other prybars=
I already have.=C2=A0=C2=A0</span>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color=
:rgb(51,51,51)">
<span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt"><br></span>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color=
:rgb(51,51,51)">
<span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt">Do you have any ide=
a how he made it?=C2=A0 I'm asking about how he bent it - the ends coul=
d be done by an angle grinder.=C2=A0 My first thought for bending it would =
be heat but that would take out the springiness, wouldn't it?</span>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color=
:rgb(51,51,51)">
<span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt"><br></span>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color=
:rgb(51,51,51)">
<span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt">Thanks for sharing!=
</span>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color=
:rgb(51,51,51)">
<span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt"><br></span>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color=
:rgb(51,51,51)">
<span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt">Mark</span>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color=
:rgb(51,51,51)">
<span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt">1956 Daimler Regenc=
y Mk II '104' patiently awaiting attention</span>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color=
:rgb(51,51,51)">
<span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt">1995 Buick Century =
- my 'modern' daily driver ;-)</span>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color=
:rgb(51,51,51)">
<span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt">2001 Ford E150 Trav=
eler van with wheelchair lift - almost 80,000 miles - obviously we almost e=
xclusively use it to transport our handicapped son - I'm more worried a=
bout this dying due to lack of driving than getting worn out</span>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color=
:rgb(51,51,51)">
<span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt">A couple of other t=
ransportation pods (2005 Toyota Corolla, 2007 Ford Fusion)</span>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div>
On 02/14/2023 7:56 PM Philip Ethier <<a href=3D"mailto:pethier7@gmai=
l.com" target=3D"_blank">pethier7@gmail.com</a>> wrote:
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Now I have a set of MG TF leaf springs that I removed and I d=
o not know=C2=A0what to do with them.
</div>
<div style=3D"font-size:small">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-size:small">
I suppose I could make knives or something...
</div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div>
I still have the wrecking bar my father made out of a car spring.=C2=
=A0 Probably in the 1940s or 1950s.=C2=A0 It is very useful for trim in hou=
ses and as a foot-lever for hanging doors.
</div>
<div>
<br>
</div>
<div>
<a href=3D"https://www.flickr.com/photos/pethier/52689555023"; target=
=3D"_blank">https://www.flickr.com/photos/pethier/52689555023</a>
<br>
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<span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana,geneva,luc=
ida,"lucida grande",arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;b=
ackground-color:rgb(239,239,239)">Phil Ethier West Side Saint Paul Minnesot=
a USA</span>
<br>
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<span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana,geneva,luc=
ida,"lucida grande",arial,helvetica,sans-serif;background-color:r=
gb(239,239,239)">1973 Triumph Stag LE22439UBW "uncle jack", Sapph=
ire Blue</span>
<br style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana,geneva,lucid=
a,"lucida grande",arial,helvetica,sans-serif;background-color:rgb=
(239,239,239)"><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana,geneva,l=
ucida,"lucida grande",arial,helvetica,sans-serif;background-color=
:rgb(239,239,239)">2004 Suburban 8.1, Sport Red</span>
<br style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana,geneva,lucid=
a,"lucida grande",arial,helvetica,sans-serif;background-color:rgb=
(239,239,239)"><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana,geneva,l=
ucida,"lucida grande",arial,helvetica,sans-serif;background-color=
:rgb(239,239,239)">2005 Lotus Elise, Bordeaux Red Pearl - gone but not forg=
otten</span>
</div>
<div>
<span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana,geneva,luc=
ida,"lucida grande",arial,helvetica,sans-serif;background-color:r=
gb(239,239,239)">2006 Gulf Stream Conquest Super C, 8.1, White</span>
</div>
<div>
<span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana,geneva,luc=
ida,"lucida grande",arial,helvetica,sans-serif;background-color:r=
gb(239,239,239)">2011 Porsche Cayman 2.9 PDK</span>
</div>
<div>
2017 Ford Fusion SE 2.0 Turbo, Oxford White
<br style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana,geneva,lucid=
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rgb(239,239,239)" href=3D"http://www.mnautox.com/"; rel=3D"noopener" target=
=3D"_blank">http://www.mnautox.com</a>
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