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Re: [Shop-talk] Steering gear oil

To: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Steering gear oil
From: Jim Stone <1789alpine@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 6 May 2021 07:47:50 -0400
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I don=E2=80=99t know if this will work for a Healey, but I drilled and =
tapped a hole in my steering box cover and installed a grease fitting.  =
It stuck out a bit on the inside and I ground that down so that it was =
flush and squirted some grease through to be sure it was clean.  I then =
packed as much grease in the box as I could, re-installed it and added =
more until it came out the original filler hole.

I can=E2=80=99t answer your question about mixing them, and am curious =
about the answer, too.

> On May 6, 2021, at 12:31 AM, Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> wrote:
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> My Healey 100's box is leaking profusely; has 1) anyone injected the =
CH Grease into a box with some 90W remaining? Does the CG Grease =
displace the oil and 2) anyone found a quick-and-easy way to get the =
grease in (mine's in regular grease gun tubes; just wondering if there's =
an easier way)?
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> Bob
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> On 5/5/2021 3:36 PM, Jeff Scarbrough wrote:
>> Having spent some time in the seat of a JD 9900, I can verify that
>> spindle grease is very runny, without being leakingly runny.  Also a
>> fascinating green color...kind of like minty toothpaste.  But
>> slippery.
>>=20
>> Jeff Scarbrough
>> Corrosion Acres, Ga.
>>=20
>> On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 4:30 PM Jack Brooks <JIBrooks@live.com> wrote:
>>> Pat,
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> My TR3 is a worm and peg.
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> The way it was explained to me=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6..  Cornhead grease =
is that it=E2=80=99s a semi-fluid, self-leveling grease thick enough to =
stay put, but will liquify easier than regular grease, so it=E2=80=99ll =
work =E2=80=9Cas an oil=E2=80=9D in steering boxes that specify oil, not =
grease.
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> I couldn=E2=80=99t find the John Deere spec sheet quickly, but a =
number of the properties are highlighted here.
>>> =
https://www.greenpartstore.com/John-Deere-Special-Purpose-Corn-Head-Gun-Gr=
ease-AN102562.html
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Jack
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> From: Pat Horne <patintexas@icloud.com>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 5, 2021 9:32 AM
>>> To: Jack Brooks <JIBrooks@live.com>
>>> Cc: Shop-talk@autox.team.net
>>> Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Steering gear oil
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> I=E2=80=99m not involved w/British cars, but old Japanese cars & =
would like some information about the vehicles that y=E2=80=99all are =
considering using cornhead grease on. Are these steering boxes =
recirculating ball or worm & peg boxes? The Datsun roadsters I=E2=80=99m =
involved with use both types depending on year.
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Peace,
>>>=20
>>> Pat
>>>=20
>>> Pat Horne
>>>=20
>>> We support Habitat for Humanity
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> On May 4, 2021, at 11:26 PM, Jack Brooks <JIBrooks@live.com> wrote:
>>>=20
>>> =EF=BB=BF
>>>=20
>>> A lot of Triumph guys like Cornhead grease in the steering box too.  =
Leaks are a lot less likely than the specified oils.
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Jack
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> From: Shop-talk <shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Jim =
Stone
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 10:37 AM
>>> To: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
>>> Cc: shop-talk@autox.team.net
>>> Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Steering gear oil
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Thanks, Bob. I didn=E2=80=99t want to hijack the thread, so I =
changed the subject line, just in case anyone else was interested in the =
topic.
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Cornhead grease was recently suggested on the Alpine forum, probably =
by someone who owns an Alpine and a Healey. In fact, I found the cotton =
picker oil while looking for cornhead grease.  Besides being more =
readily available, at least if you have a Tractor Supply nearby, it is =
just slightly thinner than the grease, which might make it easier to get =
in the box but still thick enough not to leak out. I won=E2=80=99t know =
until I try it, and that might be a while. This is pretty low on my to =
do list right now; I just bought it because I was in the vicinity of a =
TS store, something that doesn=E2=80=99t happen all that often.
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> On May 4, 2021, at 10:28 AM, Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> =
wrote:
>>>=20
>>> =EF=BB=BF Side note: The 'goto' for leaky steering boxes in the =
Austin-Healey universe is John Deere 'Cornhead Grease;' available at =
many places online (and probably equivalent to spindle grease). A friend =
sent me a couple tubes, but I haven't tried it yet; getting it in the =
box is the hard part.
>>>=20
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charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">I =
don=E2=80=99t know if this will work for a Healey, but I drilled and =
tapped a hole in my steering box cover and installed a grease fitting. =
&nbsp;It stuck out a bit on the inside and I ground that down so that it =
was flush and squirted some grease through to be sure it was clean. =
&nbsp;I then packed as much grease in the box as I could, re-installed =
it and added more until it came out the original filler hole.<div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I can=E2=80=99t answer =
your question about mixing them, and am curious about the answer, =
too.<br class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D""><div class=3D"">On May 6, 2021, at 12:31 AM, Bob Spidell =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net"; =
class=3D"">bspidell@comcast.net</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><meta =
charset=3D"UTF-8" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" =
class=3D"">My Healey 100's box is leaking profusely; has 1) anyone =
injected the CH Grease into a box with some 90W remaining? Does the CG =
Grease displace the oil and 2) anyone found a quick-and-easy way to get =
the grease in (mine's in regular grease gun tubes; just wondering if =
there's an easier way)?</span><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
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normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, =
0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, =
0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
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normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" =
class=3D"">Bob</span><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
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normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, =
0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, =
0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" =
class=3D"">On 5/5/2021 3:36 PM, Jeff Scarbrough wrote:</span><br =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: =
14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; =
font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; =
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: =
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=3D"">Having =
spent some time in the seat of a JD 9900, I can verify that<br =
class=3D"">spindle grease is very runny, without being leakingly runny. =
&nbsp;Also a<br class=3D"">fascinating green color...kind of like minty =
toothpaste. &nbsp;But<br class=3D"">slippery.<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Jeff Scarbrough<br class=3D"">Corrosion Acres, Ga.<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 4:30 PM Jack Brooks =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:JIBrooks@live.com"; =
class=3D"">JIBrooks@live.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br class=3D""><blockquote =
type=3D"cite" class=3D"">Pat,<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">My TR3 is a worm and peg.<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">The way it was explained to =
me=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6.. &nbsp;Cornhead grease is that it=E2=80=99s a =
semi-fluid, self-leveling grease thick enough to stay put, but will =
liquify easier than regular grease, so it=E2=80=99ll work =E2=80=9Cas an =
oil=E2=80=9D in steering boxes that specify oil, not grease.<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">I couldn=E2=80=99t=
 find the John Deere spec sheet quickly, but a number of the properties =
are highlighted here.<br class=3D""><a =
href=3D"https://www.greenpartstore.com/John-Deere-Special-Purpose-Corn-Hea=
d-Gun-Grease-AN102562.html" =
class=3D"">https://www.greenpartstore.com/John-Deere-Special-Purpose-Corn-=
Head-Gun-Grease-AN102562.html</a><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">Jack<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">From: Pat Horne =
&lt;patintexas@icloud.com&gt;<br class=3D"">Sent: Wednesday, May 5, 2021 =
9:32 AM<br class=3D"">To: Jack Brooks &lt;JIBrooks@live.com&gt;<br =
class=3D"">Cc: Shop-talk@autox.team.net<br class=3D"">Subject: Re: =
[Shop-talk] Steering gear oil<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">I=E2=80=99m not involved w/British cars, but =
old Japanese cars &amp; would like some information about the vehicles =
that y=E2=80=99all are considering using cornhead grease on. Are these =
steering boxes recirculating ball or worm &amp; peg boxes? The Datsun =
roadsters I=E2=80=99m involved with use both types depending on year.<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Peace,<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">Pat<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Pat Horne<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">We support Habitat for Humanity<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">On =
May 4, 2021, at 11:26 PM, Jack Brooks &lt;JIBrooks@live.com&gt; =
wrote:<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">=EF=BB=BF<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">A lot of Triumph guys like Cornhead grease in the steering =
box too. &nbsp;Leaks are a lot less likely than the specified oils.<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Jack<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">From: Shop-talk =
&lt;shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net&gt; On Behalf Of Jim Stone<br =
class=3D"">Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 10:37 AM<br class=3D"">To: Bob =
Spidell &lt;bspidell@comcast.net&gt;<br class=3D"">Cc: =
shop-talk@autox.team.net<br class=3D"">Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Steering =
gear oil<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Thanks, Bob. I didn=E2=80=99t want to hijack the thread, so I =
changed the subject line, just in case anyone else was interested in the =
topic.<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Cornhead=
 grease was recently suggested on the Alpine forum, probably by someone =
who owns an Alpine and a Healey. In fact, I found the cotton picker oil =
while looking for cornhead grease. &nbsp;Besides being more readily =
available, at least if you have a Tractor Supply nearby, it is just =
slightly thinner than the grease, which might make it easier to get in =
the box but still thick enough not to leak out. I won=E2=80=99t know =
until I try it, and that might be a while. This is pretty low on my to =
do list right now; I just bought it because I was in the vicinity of a =
TS store, something that doesn=E2=80=99t happen all that often.<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Sent from my =
iPhone<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">On May 4, 2021, at 10:28 AM, Bob Spidell =
&lt;bspidell@comcast.net&gt; wrote:<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">=EF=BB=BF=
 Side note: The 'goto' for leaky steering boxes in the Austin-Healey =
universe is John Deere 'Cornhead Grease;' available at many places =
online (and probably equivalent to spindle grease). A friend sent me a =
couple tubes, but I haven't tried it yet; getting it in the box is the =
hard part.<br class=3D""><br =
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