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Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Paint sprayers
From: "John T. Blair via Shop-talk" <shop-talk@autox.team.net>
Date: Sun, 03 May 2020 15:22:18 -0400
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At 12:54 PM 5/3/2020, eric--- via Shop-talk wrote:

 >Ok, so "Sandford" by big work truck is currently undergoing some major body
 >work and will be getting new paint.  Both myself and my buddy 
haven't painted a
 >car since the late 80's.

Eric,

Things have changed a lot since the 80s.  Back then many people were 
still paiinting
with lacquer or enamel single stage (no clear coat).  Now most people 
are shoting 2
stage, base coat, clear coat.

I've use the harbor freight HVLP guns paint a couple of cars in the 
90s and 2000s.  They
worked well.  That being said, a good HVLP system will have an air 
source and a heater/dryer in it and are quite expensive.

But what I haven't seen anyone address nor you really say what type 
paint you were going to use.  If you are using any of the epoxy or 
polyester paints, BE VERY CAREFUL!!!
The paints have polyisocyanurates to help the paint harden.  From 
what I've been told
there are a couple of problems with this:

1. The polyisocyanurates can be absorbed through your skin, and is 
cumulative.  Your
body can't flush these out.  So be sure to wear gloves when mixing 
and handling the
paint.

2. Be sure to wear a good mask.  You are supposed to wear a positive 
pressure mask, that has it's own air supply and is pressurized, like 
a CPAP machine, so that you don't get
any of the fume into your lungs.

3. Back in the 90s when my boys were in Scouting, I was talking to the young
scoutmaster, and the subject of painting car/trucks came up.  He told 
me a story that
about one of his buddies was painting a truck and wasn't wearing a 
good mask as they
were painting outside.  Well he went to bed that night and the paint 
did its job, it
hardened.  The boy didn't wake up, his lungs solidified.

The moral of the store is:  BE VERY CAREFUL AROUND THE NEWER PAINTS!

John


John T. Blair  WA4OHZ     email:  jblair1948@cox.net
Va. Beach, Va                  Phone:  (757) 495-8229

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<font size=3>At 12:54 PM 5/3/2020, eric--- via Shop-talk wrote:<br><br>
&gt;Ok, so &quot;Sandford&quot; by big work truck is currently undergoing
some major body<br>
&gt;work and will be getting new paint.&nbsp; Both myself and my buddy
haven't painted a <br>
&gt;car since the late 80's. <br><br>
Eric,<br><br>
Things have changed a lot since the 80s.&nbsp; Back then many people were
still paiinting <br>
with lacquer or enamel single stage (no clear coat).&nbsp; Now most
people are shoting 2 <br>
stage, base coat, clear coat.&nbsp; <br><br>
I've use the harbor freight HVLP guns paint a couple of cars in the 90s
and 2000s.&nbsp; They<br>
worked well.&nbsp; That being said, a good HVLP system will have an air
source and a heater/dryer in it and are quite expensive.<br><br>
But what I haven't seen anyone address nor you really say what type paint
you were going to use.&nbsp; If you are using any of the epoxy or
polyester paints, BE VERY CAREFUL!!!<br>
The paints have polyisocyanurates to help the paint harden.&nbsp; From
what I've been told <br>
there are a couple of problems with this:<br><br>
1. The polyisocyanurates can be absorbed through your skin, and is
cumulative.&nbsp; Your <br>
body can't flush these out.&nbsp; So be sure to wear gloves when mixing
and handling the <br>
paint.&nbsp; <br><br>
2. Be sure to wear a good mask.&nbsp; You are supposed to wear a positive
pressure mask, that has it's own air supply and is pressurized, like a
CPAP machine, so that you don't get<br>
any of the fume into your lungs.<br><br>
3. Back in the 90s when my boys were in Scouting, I was talking to the
young <br>
scoutmaster, and the subject of painting car/trucks came up.&nbsp; He
told me a story that <br>
about one of his buddies was painting a truck and wasn't wearing a good
mask as they <br>
were painting outside.&nbsp; Well he went to bed that night and the paint
did its job, it <br>
hardened.&nbsp; The boy didn't wake up, his lungs solidified.<br><br>
The moral of the store is:&nbsp; BE VERY CAREFUL AROUND THE NEWER
PAINTS!<br><br>
John<br><br>
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<div>John T. Blair&nbsp; WA4OHZ&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; email:&nbsp;
jblair1948@cox.net</div>
<div>Va. Beach,
Va&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
Phone:&nbsp; (757) 495-8229</div>
<br>
<div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 48
TR1800&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 48 #4 Midget&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 65 Morgan 4/4
Series V (B1106)</div>
<div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 75 Bricklin SV1 (#0887)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
77 Spitfire&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 71 Saab Sonett III</div>
<div>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
65 Rambler Classic</div>
<br>
<div>Morgan:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
<a href="http://www.team.net/morgan"; EUDORA=AUTOURL>
www.team.net/morgan</a></div>
<div>Bricklin:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
<a href="http://www.bricklin.org/"; EUDORA=AUTOURL>www.bricklin.org</a>
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<br>
<div>If you can read
this&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
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<div>If you are reading it in English - Thank a Vet!!</div>
<br>
<div> From Dennis Prager - The American Trilogy:</div>
<div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; e pluribus Unum, &quot;from many,
one.&quot;</div>
<div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; In God We Trust</div>
<div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Liberty - the&nbsp; power&nbsp; of&nbsp;
choosing,&nbsp; thinking,&nbsp; and&nbsp; acting&nbsp; for&nbsp; </div>
<div>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
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