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Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Winterizing Sprinkler System
From: Jim Stone via Shop-talk <shop-talk@autox.team.net>
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2019 12:48:50 -0500
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Thanks, guys.  I just bought the adapter; it will be here on Thursday, =
well ahead of any freezing temperatures.

John=E2=80=99s comment about a backflow preventer valve does have me =
rethinking one aspect of my plan.  The system installer put in an =
outside hose barb that he intended for blowing out the system, but I had =
thought it made sense to move ahead of that and start where the system =
originates in the basement.  I can isolate the sprinkler from the rest =
of the system and blow it out from there.  Unless there is a good reason =
not to do it that.  If there is a backflow preventer valve between the =
hose barb and the basement, might there be a problem blowing it out from =
there?

Jim

> On Nov 5, 2019, at 12:16 PM, Steven Trovato via Shop-talk =
<shop-talk@autox.team.net> wrote:
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> Jim,
> I rigged up an adapter like that many years ago and I have been using =
it every time I need to winterize a sprinkler system, summer home or =
other similar tasks.  I usually run a garden hose from whatever drain =
valve I want to the compressor.  I use my adapter at the compressor end =
of the garden hose to connect to the air supply.  I have enough garden =
hose that routing to the drain valve isn't really a problem.  I don't =
need a lot of air pressure, but I blast a lot of air volume through to =
push the water out.  My main garage compressor is my first choice, but I =
have used a smaller portable one and it did OK.  As for purchasing that =
adapter, I would do it.  I don't know if such a thing existed when I =
made mine.  Twenty bucks would be worth it to me for the convenience.  =
Of course, if you have the pieces already and you don't want to wait for =
an adapter to arrive, making it would also be a reasonable thing to do.  =
I don't have a shutoff on mine and I don't really miss it. =20
>=20
> -Steve=20
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> At 11:32 AM 11/5/2019, Jim Stone via Shop-talk wrote:
>> I need to drain and winterize my new sprinkler system and can=C3=A2=C2=80=
=C2=99t imagine I need to pay someone to do that job.  While I =
understand the =C3=A2=C2=80=C2=98proper=C3=A2=C2=80=C2=99 way to do it =
is to manually open each valve, I was told a few years ago that it is =
easier to just pressurize the system at the drain valve and then use the =
manual function on the controller to run through each zone until no more =
water comes out.  (FWIW, my system is not that large and has 6 zones.). =
I was thinking about rigging something up that would allow me to attach =
my compressor and walk away, but found this on Amazon, which seems like =
a good investment that would pay for itself on the first use: =
https://www.amazon.com/Winterize-Sprinkler-Systems-Outdoor-Faucets/dp/B005=
5QAAIQ/ref=3Dasc_df_B0055QAAIQ/?tag=3Dhyprod-20&linkCode=3Ddf0&hvadid=3D30=
9735714375&hvpos=3D1o1&hvnetw=3Dg&hvrand=3D11131050794144962178&hvpone=3D&=
hvptwo=3D&hvqmt=3D&hvdev=3Dc&hvdvcmdl=3D&hvlocint=3D&hvlocphy=3D9004590&hv=
targid=3Dpla-570302725618&psc=3D1 =
<https://www.amazon.com/Winterize-Sprinkler-Systems-Outdoor-Faucets/dp/B00=
55QAAIQ/ref=3Dasc_df_B0055QAAIQ/?tag=3Dhyprod-20&linkCode=3Ddf0&hvadid=3D3=
09735714375&hvpos=3D1o1&hvnetw=3Dg&hvrand=3D11131050794144962178&hvpone=3D=
&hvptwo=3D&hvqmt=3D&hvdev=3Dc&hvdvcmdl=3D&hvlocint=3D&hvlocphy=3D9004590&h=
vtargid=3Dpla-570302725618&psc=3D1> . I could save around $10 and just =
buy a hose to quick disconnect fitting, but the shut off valve seems =
like a good addition.
>>=20
>> I have fairly large compressor, but think it will be more trouble =
than it is worth to get air to the master drain valve.  Instead, I was =
planning on just using my Harbor Freight 8 gal portable compressor.  ( =
https://www.harborfreight.com/8-gal-2-hp-125-psi-oil-lube-air-compressor-6=
8740.html =
<https://www.harborfreight.com/8-gal-2-hp-125-psi-oil-lube-air-compressor-=
68740.html> ).   My water pressure is regulated to 60 lbs, so I figured =
something around this should be sufficient.
>>=20
>> Am I missing anything?  Is there any good reason to pay a =
professional to do this job?  It seems like a no-brainer to me, but =
I=C3=A2=C2=80=C2=99ve been called a no-brainer before.
>>=20
>> Thanks,
>> Jim
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D"">Thanks, guys. &nbsp;I just bought the adapter; it will be =
here on Thursday, well ahead of any freezing temperatures.<div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">John=E2=80=99s comment =
about a backflow preventer valve does have me rethinking one aspect of =
my plan. &nbsp;The system installer put in an outside hose barb that he =
intended for blowing out the system, but I had thought it made sense to =
move ahead of that and start where the system originates in the =
basement. &nbsp;I can isolate the sprinkler from the rest of the system =
and blow it out from there. &nbsp;Unless there is a good reason not to =
do it that. &nbsp;If there is a&nbsp;backflow preventer valve between =
the hose barb and the basement, might there be a problem blowing it out =
from there?<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Jim</div><div class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote =
type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Nov 5, 2019, at 12:16 PM, =
Steven Trovato via Shop-talk &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:shop-talk@autox.team.net"; =
class=3D"">shop-talk@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D"">
<div class=3D"">
Jim,<br class=3D"">
I rigged up an adapter like that many years ago and I have been using it
every time I need to winterize a sprinkler system, summer home or other
similar tasks.&nbsp; I usually run a garden hose from whatever drain
valve I want to the compressor.&nbsp; I use my adapter at the compressor
end of the garden hose to connect to the air supply.&nbsp; I have enough
garden hose that routing to the drain valve isn't really a =
problem.&nbsp;
I don't need a lot of air pressure, but I blast a lot of air volume
through to push the water out.&nbsp; My main garage compressor is my
first choice, but I have used a smaller portable one and it did =
OK.&nbsp;
As for purchasing that adapter, I would do it.&nbsp; I don't know if =
such
a thing existed when I made mine.&nbsp; Twenty bucks would be worth it =
to
me for the convenience.&nbsp; Of course, if you have the pieces already
and you don't want to wait for an adapter to arrive, making it would =
also
be a reasonable thing to do.&nbsp; I don't have a shutoff on mine and I
don't really miss it.&nbsp; <br class=3D""><br class=3D"">
-Steve <br class=3D""><br class=3D"">
At 11:32 AM 11/5/2019, Jim Stone via Shop-talk wrote:<br class=3D"">
<blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"cite" cite=3D"">I need to drain and =
winterize my
new sprinkler system and can=C3=A2=C2=80=C2=99t imagine I need to pay =
someone to do that
job.&nbsp; While I understand the =C3=A2=C2=80=C2=98proper=C3=A2=C2=80=C2=99=
 way to do it is to
manually open each valve, I was told a few years ago that it is easier =
to
just pressurize the system at the drain valve and then use the manual
function on the controller to run through each zone until no more water
comes out.&nbsp; (FWIW, my system is not that large and has 6 zones.). I
was thinking about rigging something up that would allow me to attach my
compressor and walk away, but found this on Amazon, which seems like a
good investment that would pay for itself on the first use:
<a =
href=3D"https://www.amazon.com/Winterize-Sprinkler-Systems-Outdoor-Faucets=
/dp/B0055QAAIQ/ref=3Dasc_df_B0055QAAIQ/?tag=3Dhyprod-20&amp;linkCode=3Ddf0=
&amp;hvadid=3D309735714375&amp;hvpos=3D1o1&amp;hvnetw=3Dg&amp;hvrand=3D111=
31050794144962178&amp;hvpone=3D&amp;hvptwo=3D&amp;hvqmt=3D&amp;hvdev=3Dc&a=
mp;hvdvcmdl=3D&amp;hvlocint=3D&amp;hvlocphy=3D9004590&amp;hvtargid=3Dpla-5=
70302725618&amp;psc=3D1" class=3D"">
=
https://www.amazon.com/Winterize-Sprinkler-Systems-Outdoor-Faucets/dp/B005=
5QAAIQ/ref=3Dasc_df_B0055QAAIQ/?tag=3Dhyprod-20&amp;linkCode=3Ddf0&amp;hva=
did=3D309735714375&amp;hvpos=3D1o1&amp;hvnetw=3Dg&amp;hvrand=3D11131050794=
144962178&amp;hvpone=3D&amp;hvptwo=3D&amp;hvqmt=3D&amp;hvdev=3Dc&amp;hvdvc=
mdl=3D&amp;hvlocint=3D&amp;hvlocphy=3D9004590&amp;hvtargid=3Dpla-570302725=
618&amp;psc=3D1</a>
. I could save around $10 and just buy a hose to quick disconnect
fitting, but the shut off valve seems like a good addition.<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">
I have fairly large compressor, but think it will be more trouble than =
it
is worth to get air to the master drain valve.&nbsp; Instead, I was
planning on just using my Harbor Freight 8 gal portable =
compressor.&nbsp;
(<a =
href=3D"https://www.harborfreight.com/8-gal-2-hp-125-psi-oil-lube-air-comp=
ressor-68740.html" class=3D"">
=
https://www.harborfreight.com/8-gal-2-hp-125-psi-oil-lube-air-compressor-6=
8740.html</a>
).&nbsp;&nbsp; My water pressure is regulated to 60 lbs, so I figured
something around this should be sufficient.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">
Am I missing anything?&nbsp; Is there any good reason to pay a
professional to do this job?&nbsp; It seems like a no-brainer to me, but
I=C3=A2=C2=80=C2=99ve been called a no-brainer before.<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">
Thanks,<br class=3D"">
Jim</blockquote><div id=3D"DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2" =
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