I guess this wouldn't be a good time to mention that I have a couple of
front clips (front steer Nova and 71 Monte) that I am offering free to
anyone that wants to come and pick them up, or the crusher gets them.
Oh well.
Steve Bobst
St. Charles, IOWA
-----Original Message-----
From: Claude <cramey@dashlink.com>
To: oletrucks@autox.team.net <oletrucks@autox.team.net>
Date: Monday, September 18, 2000 6:35 PM
Subject: [oletrucks] IFS
>I was looking someday to convert to IFS but am undecided. I hate to chop
off
>the front of the frame for all the reasons stated previously. But, while I
>like the thought of keeping the frame intact and welding/bolting on an IFS,
>I don't think I'd like having a rack & pinion with tubular A arms on my big
>ol' truck (not a strength issue). I want the GM A arms with the GM gear box
>and all the other GM stuff to go with it. I like the looks better and I
just
>think that's what belongs on the TRUCK. But, I don't want to cut my frame.
I
>am told that the Pacer thing does not work as easy on a '58-'59 (frame
>width). I guess I will be using the old straight axle for a while.
>While I'm on the subject of straight axle, Someone mentioned earlier they
>used 1/2" of toe-in. I have all the slack/play out of my steering (power
>steering conversion) and it drives pretty good. I've been meaning to try
>more toe-in for that straight ahead feel on the highway. This may be a good
>tip, haven't tried it yet.
>
>> > Oh, man... I'm probably going to get jumped on again but here goes.
>> >
>> > If you want to put a clip on your truck, I'm not going to tell you not
>to,
>> however there are a couple things you need to think about in the process.
>> >
>> > There is only one way to install a clip correctly and safely and there
>are
>> a thousand ways to screw it up. If you feel you must destroy a perfectly
>> good frame just make sure your very meticulous about installing a new
>clip.
>> An experienced (certified) welder is a must in these cases and double and
>> triple check your alignment before everything's permanently welded in
>> position.
>> >
>> > In the street rod community it's generally considered that installing a
>> clip lowers the resale value of your vehicle. It seems people just
aren't
>> willing to pay top dollar and trust someone else's skills when something
>as
>> important as a frame is concerned.
>> >
>> > I hesitate to see what the advantages of installing a clip are anyway.
>> Exactly what are you getting with a clip that you can't get from the
>> aftermarket? Disk brakes? They're available almost anywhere. IFS?
Nope,
>> again available almost anywhere. Ah, motor mounts. Nope, a weld or bolt
>in
>> crossmember with Chevy mounts is readily available for about $60 from a
>> number of sources. I know... ease of installation. Nope, I don't think
>so.
>> So what is it then that makes people want to destroy a perfectly good
>frame?
>> I know, it must be the fun of hanging all that old sheet metal back on
the
>> front once the clip is in place. That's got to be it, a chance for people
>to
>> show off their fabrication skills.
>> >
>> > Now don't jump on me guys... I was just trying to make a point here.
>> There's a lot to be considered before making a huge decision like lopping
>> off the front of your perfectly good frame. People tend to think they're
>> going to save themselves a lot of work by doing this but in reality they
>> cause themselves as much work as they think they're saving. There have
>been
>> thousands of clips welded on street rods and trucks and most of them are
>> very safe, all I'm saying is make sure that's what you want to do before
>> getting the sawsall out. Once you cut it, there's really no turning
back.
>> >
>> > OK, my fox hole is dug.... Incoming!!!!!
>> >
>> > Bill Whittaker
>> > '53 3100 Hemi
>> > Built Like A Rock
>> > With Mopar Stock
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Terry Beynon [mailto:tbeynon@dsl.telocity.com]
>> > Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2000 12:21 AM
>> > To: Old Trucks List
>> > Subject: [oletrucks] ifs or clip
>> >
>> >
>> > While the embers are still warm, I'll fan them to a flame. Did I miss
>> > something or did we blow right passed the welded front clip say from a
>78
>> > Firebird or Camaro. In all the discussion of weld vs. bolt, it seems
>that
>> if
>> > a weld were to crack (with the clip) there's a chance you could see the
>> > whole front of your truck fall off??? The reason I bring it up is we
>used
>> > Heidt's MII on the 55. I was leaning to an old Camaro donor car to get
>the
>> > front clip, rear end (3.08 gear) and the tilt wheel. Do I cut the frame
>or
>> > not?
>> >
>> > Terry Beynon
>> > 55-1 3100
>> > 51 3106 (Suburban)
>> > Chicago IL
>> > www.beynon.net/terry.html
>> >
>> > oletrucks is devoted to Chevy and GM trucks built between 1941 and 1959
>> > oletrucks is devoted to Chevy and GM trucks built between 1941 and 1959
>
>
>oletrucks is devoted to Chevy and GM trucks built between 1941 and 1959
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