On a recent visit to Ireland (home of Guiness...the nectar of the Gods!)
I was amazed to find the Irish also drinking Bud. They would be better off
putting
both the frogs and the lizzards in the blender and juicing them, rather than
drinking
Bud. It wasn't even imported but brewed under license.The "novelty" factor
prevailed.
When I lived in GB many
years ago, my Brit pals got me tuned in to CAMRA (Campaign for Real Ale).
That really taught me about the variety and diversity of British brews and
got me
to visit lots of truly wonderful off beat pubs.It didn't take me long to
develop a taste
for true British "real ales". But that doesn't get Lucas off the hook!
Stu Ross :63 +4 Morgan;53 Bentley R-Type;74 XKE
-I----Original Message-----
From: Vodden, Dave <Dave.Vodden@Telematics.com>
To: Vodden, Dave <Dave.Vodden@Telematics.com>; J D McCague
<JDM@gardensuk.demon.co.uk>
Cc: Gary Kneisley <kneisley@ohio.net>; morgans@Autox.Team.Net
<morgans@Autox.Team.Net>; William Zehring <zehrinwa@UMDNJ.EDU>
Date: Tuesday, December 15, 1998 11:32 AM
Subject: Re: in their defense (was: Halogen headlamps)
>The power of advertising, just look at the cars people drive!!
>
>Dave Vodden
>Plus 4 4 Seater
>Hampshire UK
> ----------
>From: J D McCague
>To: Vodden, Dave
>Cc: Gary Kneisley; William Zehring; morgans@Autox.Team.Net
>Subject: Re: in their defense (was: Halogen headlamps)
>Date: Tuesday 15 December 1998 10:07PM
>
>The number one selling beer here in London, as well as the rest of the
>UK,
>is Budweiser! (for the pst 5 years) served cold in bottles! Go figure!
>
>J D McCague
>London, England
>'96 Plus 8
>
>"Vodden, Dave" wrote:
>
>> British beer (as opposed to Lager, Pils, American or Australian beer)
>> should be served at cellar temperature. As Will correctly says that
>is
>> somewhere around 50 to 54F I believe that this also applies to German
>> beers in Germany. Although I have had a number of occasions to visit
>> the US I have noted that the American gentlemen I know tend (where
>there
>> is a choice) to drink imported or even British beers, unless there is
>a
>> "microbrewery" around.
>>
>> Dave Vodden
>> Plus 4 4 Seater
>> Ha,pshire UK
>> ----------
>> From: William Zehring
>> To: Gary Kneisley
>> Cc: morgans@autox.team.net
>> Subject: in their defense (was: Halogen headlamps)
>> Date: Tuesday 15 December 1998 09:03PM
>>
>> Fellow Morganist Gary K. writes:
>>
>> >
>> >PS: And the British drink warm beer too,
>> >
>>
>> Now, it seems that whenever discussion of the electrics in our dearly
>> beloved british cars flares up, and the vicissitudes of the Lucas
>> electrical systems are cast into question, we are reminded that the
>> Brits
>> drink warm beer, hinting that they can't wire a refrigerator
>correctly,
>> either.
>>
>> Well, two things (sorry, but I just have to speak up here):
>> (1)Its never been my impression that they drink "warm" beer (i.e. beer
>> that
>> is warmer than room temperature (which in England is no better than
>65F,
>> most of the time, if any of the scenes in the Alistair Simm version of
>> "A
>> Christmas Carol" are to be taken as accurate)). I'm prepared to admit
>> that
>> the Brits have a number of odd habits (like boiling their vegetables
>to
>> a
>> state of mush, and now-and-again going over to France to beat up on
>> soccer
>> fans), but I cannot believe that they drink WARM beer. The thought of
>> imbibing 'warm' beer (beer from which steam is rising) is revolting,
>in
>> the
>> extremus!
>> (2)And even if they did, who the heck are we yanks to cast the first
>> stone?
>> The American habits of drinking freezing ice cold beer has NEVER made
>> sense to me (even as a sodden college student). Not only do we
>> Americans
>> brew the most flavorless of beers (whose idea was "lite" beer,
>anyway?),
>> but we numb our tongues further by serving the stuff just shy of
>frozen,
>> in
>> glasses coated with frost. What little taste there might have been is
>> made
>> fully inaccessible by such cold temperatures. It is my 'umble opinion
>> that
>> beer is best served at a temp roughly equidistant between refrigerator
>> and
>> room temps (i.e. approx. 50F). That is, I would say, 'lightly
>chilled.'
>> Having said that, I'm more than willing to allow that those list
>members
>> who live in Texas, where it is well recognized to never drop below
>90F,
>> may
>> have a hankering for an icy draught now and again. We may forgive
>them
>> for
>> this tendency, living as they do in the trackless Great American
>Desert.
>>
>> thirsty (as usual), I am
>> yours, etc.,
>> Will Zehring
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