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Yes, I just meant it was incompatible with DOT 3 and 4, not that it was =
somehow incompatible with the master cylinder.
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Max Heim
'66 MGB
> On Aug 31, 2023, at 12:46 AM, <h.duinhoven@planet.nl> =
<h.duinhoven@planet.nl> wrote:
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> >>> DOT 5 is the incompatible silicone fluid=E2=80=A6
> I have used DOT 5 all the years I have had my BGT running from 2000 =
=E2=80=93 2023.=20
> It is incompatible with lower DOT values, but if the system is flushed =
well before filling with DOT 5(.1), it works well.
> =20
> Cheers,
> Hans=20
> No longer BGT =E2=98=B9
> =20
> Van: Mgs <mgs-bounces@autox.team.net> Namens Max Heim
> Verzonden: woensdag 30 augustus 2023 20:00
> Aan: mglist <mgs@autox.team.net>
> Onderwerp: Re: [Mgs] Moss Motors clutch master cylinder brake fluid
> =20
> That looks like the one I installed, and it=E2=80=99s fine. Although I =
use DOT 4 Castrol LMA fluid, exclusively.
> =20
> (DOT 4 has a higher boiling point than DOT 3, but is otherwise =
compatible. DOT 5 is the incompatible silicone fluid).
> =20
> --
> Max Heim
> '66 MGB=20
> =20
>=20
>=20
>> On Aug 30, 2023, at 9:30 AM, wkilleffer@epbfi.com =
>> =20
>> Hello everyone,
>> =20
>> I'm about to replace the clutch hydraulics on my 1974 MGB. I did this =
one other time a few years ago and used a master cylinder from a company =
in Knoxville, TN. One problem I had with it was that it was hard to get =
its cap off without first removing the cap on the brake master cylinder. =
The new cylinder from Moss appears that it won't have that issue. It's =
this one under 180-697: =
https://mossmotors.com/180-697-clutch-master-cylinder-replacement-3-4-bore=
=
<https://mossmotors.com/180-697-clutch-master-cylinder-replacement-3-4-bor=
e>
>> =20
>> The problem is that there's no label on the cylinder stating whether =
or not it's DOT 3 compliant. The brake master I installed =
(https://mossmotors.com/180-767-brake-master-cylinder-aftermarket)=C2=A0 =
<https://mossmotors.com/180-767-brake-master-cylinder-aftermarket>is an =
aftermarket replacement from Moss, and it's labeled as DOT 3 compliant. =
I'm under the impression that most parts sold in the US are supposed to =
be that way, and have also been told that these new cylinders use a =
synthetic rubber that the old original cylinders didn't have, so the =
fluid is less mission critical and shouldn't cause the rubber parts to =
deteriorate.
>> =20
>> There's nothing on the Moss website saying one way or the other. Any =
thoughts?
>> =20
>> Thank you,
>> -William Killeffer
>> 1974 MGB
>> 1996 Jeep Cherokee Country
>> 2015 Chevrolet Sonic hatchback 1.8 5-speed
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">Yes, =
I just meant it was incompatible with DOT 3 and 4, not that it was =
somehow incompatible with the master cylinder.<div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><div class=3D"">
--<br class=3D"">Max Heim<br class=3D"">'66 MGB
</div>
<div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Aug 31, 2023, at 12:46 AM, <<a =
href=3D"mailto:h.duinhoven@planet.nl"; =
class=3D"">h.duinhoven@planet.nl</a>> <<a =
href=3D"mailto:h.duinhoven@planet.nl"; =
class=3D"">h.duinhoven@planet.nl</a>> wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><meta =
charset=3D"UTF-8" class=3D""><div class=3D"WordSection1" style=3D"page: =
WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; =
font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; =
font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: =
none;"><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D""><span class=3D"">>>></span><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>DOT 5 is the incompatible =
silicone fluid=E2=80=A6<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: =
0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">I =
have used DOT 5 all the years I have had my BGT running from 2000 =E2=80=93=
2023.<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">It is incompatible with =
lower DOT values, but if the system is flushed well before filling with =
DOT 5(.1), it works well.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin:=
0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D""> </o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Cheers,<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Hans<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">No longer BGT<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><span style=3D"font-family: =
"Segoe UI Emoji", sans-serif;" class=3D"">=E2=98=B9</span><span =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D""> </o:p></span></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; =
border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;" =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><b class=3D"">Van:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>Mgs <<a =
href=3D"mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net"; =
class=3D"">mgs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class=3D"">Namens<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Max Heim<br class=3D""><b=
class=3D"">Verzonden:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>woensdag 30 augustus 2023 =
20:00<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">Aan:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>mglist <<a =
href=3D"mailto:mgs@autox.team.net"; =
class=3D"">mgs@autox.team.net</a>><br class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Onderwerp:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Mgs] Moss Motors =
clutch master cylinder brake fluid<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D""> </o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">That looks like the one I =
installed, and it=E2=80=99s fine. Although I use DOT 4 Castrol LMA =
fluid, exclusively.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p class=3D""> </o:p></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">(DOT 4 has a higher boiling point than =
DOT 3, but is otherwise compatible. DOT 5 is the incompatible silicone =
fluid).<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p class=3D""> </o:p></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">--<br class=3D"">Max Heim<br =
class=3D"">'66 MGB<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D""> </o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><blockquote =
style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=3D"" =
type=3D"cite"><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">On Aug 30, 2023, at =
9:30 AM,<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><a =
href=3D"mailto:wkilleffer@epbfi.com"; style=3D"color: blue; =
text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"">wkilleffer@epbfi.com</a><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>wrote:<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D""> </o:p></div><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: =
12pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Hello everyone,<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p=
class=3D""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: =
Arial, sans-serif;" class=3D"">I'm about to replace the clutch =
hydraulics on my 1974 MGB. I did this one other time a few years ago and =
used a master cylinder from a company in Knoxville, TN. One problem I =
had with it was that it was hard to get its cap off without first =
removing the cap on the brake master cylinder. The new cylinder from =
Moss appears that it won't have that issue. It's this one under =
180-697: <a =
href=3D"https://mossmotors.com/180-697-clutch-master-cylinder-replacement-=
3-4-bore" style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">https://mossmotors.com/180-697-clutch-master-cylinder-replaceme=
nt-3-4-bore</a><o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: =
Arial, sans-serif;" class=3D"">The problem is that there's no label on =
the cylinder stating whether or not it's DOT 3 compliant. The brake =
master I installed (<a =
href=3D"https://mossmotors.com/180-767-brake-master-cylinder-aftermarket"; =
style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">https://mossmotors.com/180-767-brake-master-cylinder-aftermarke=
t)<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span></a>is an =
aftermarket replacement from Moss, and it's labeled as DOT 3 compliant. =
I'm under the impression that most parts sold in the US are supposed to =
be that way, and have also been told that these new cylinders use a =
synthetic rubber that the old original cylinders didn't have, so the =
fluid is less mission critical and shouldn't cause the rubber parts to =
deteriorate.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: =
Arial, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: =
Arial, sans-serif;" class=3D"">There's nothing on the Moss website =
saying one way or the other. Any thoughts?<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p=
class=3D""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: =
Arial, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Thank you,<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">-William Killeffer<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div=
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Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=3D"">1974 MGB<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
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