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I have been through 4 headlight switches in the last 2.25 years. =C2=A0The=
quality is just so poor. =C2=A012 uses out of first one, 8 uses out of 2nd=
one and the last one lasted 3 uses and gave out in the dark at the start o=
f a 1,283 mile trip over 6 days. =C2=A0I had to sit on the side of the road=
and wait for the sun to come up. =C2=A0A buddy had a two position 50 year =
old Sunbeam light switch we installed hanging under the dash on the first d=
ay of the trip, whew.
1973 MGB, original owner with 234K miles and the original switch lasted 230=
k miles. =C2=A0Take your original switch apart and do everything you can to=
retain it.
Never any smoke, the switch just gives up the ghost. =C2=A0Supper poor qual=
ity, mechanically.
Installed Halogen lamps from a buddy with Moss relays and 4th Moss switch. =
=C2=A0I have only used 3 times, so we will see if this works.
Good luck.
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Worked on the car a little today.=C2=A0 discovered that the blinkers do ind=
eed work so that=E2=80=99s good, and makes sense.=C2=A0
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=C2=A0
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We have a battery cutoff switch on this car so I decided to try a few thing=
s.=C2=A0 I noticed that the light switch no longer moves at all.=C2=A0 I ca=
nnot get the light switch to toggle at all so likely it is fried.=C2=A0 Nex=
t step is to bypass the switch and see if we get lights/action if I manuall=
y connect the wires.=20
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Swapped transmissions, car runs and drives fine, blinkers worked ok this af=
ternoon until on the way home I switched on the lights.
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=C2=A0
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Smoke from under the dash, I think on the passenger side but not positive. =
Turned the lights off, turned the car off and popped the hood. No smoke in =
engine compartment.=C2=A0 Back of light switch was hot but did not burn my =
finger.
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=C2=A0
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In that case it sounds like it was an output from the light switch that sho=
rted.=C2=A0 Either the blue (headlights) or red/green (parking and instrume=
nt lights) is probably also damaged, which will indicate (pun not intended)=
where to look next.
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Note that if the short caused enough damage inside the switch to open the c=
ircuit, and disconnect the short, manually reconnecting the wires will like=
ly bring it back on again.=C2=A0 With your cut-off switch on tap first one =
then the other of the wires mentioned above onto the brown and you should s=
oon see which has the short - if it's still present.
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On 23/01/2022 00:34, dave northrup wrote:
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=C2=A0 I noticed that the light switch no longer moves at all.=C2=A0 I can=
not get the light switch to toggle at all so likely it is fried.=C2=A0 Next=
step is to bypass the switch and see if we get lights/action if I manually=
connect the wires.=20
=C2=A0
=20
=20
Condition of the light switch does not sound encouraging, but you might r=
emove it from the dash, open it, and see if it can be cleaned and saved. Or=
iginal switches were good quality. At age 35 or so, my switch was warm to t=
ouch. I bought a new one. It was hot to touch. I opened and cleaned origina=
l, installed; =C2=A0it has been happy, and cool, ever since. =C2=A0Relays w=
ere installed later, but well after the old switch was back in service. =C2=
=A0 Good on you to have a battery cut-off switch. =C2=A0I am a believer. We=
know the condition of wires where we can see them, but those we can not se=
e ......Bob
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Worked on the car a little today.=C2=A0 discovered that the blinkers do ind=
eed work so that=E2=80=99s good, and makes sense.=C2=A0
=20
=C2=A0
=20
We have a battery cutoff switch on this car so I decided to try a few thing=
s.=C2=A0 I noticed that the light switch no longer moves at all.=C2=A0 I ca=
nnot get the light switch to toggle at all so likely it is fried.=C2=A0 Nex=
t step is to bypass the switch and see if we get lights/action if I manuall=
y connect the wires.=20
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=C2=A0
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On 19/01/2022 02:32, dave northrup wrote:
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Swapped transmissions, car runs and drives fine, blinkers worked ok this af=
ternoon until on the way home I switched on the lights.
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=C2=A0
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Smoke from under the dash, I think on the passenger side but not positive. =
Turned the lights off, turned the car off and popped the hood. No smoke in =
engine compartment.=C2=A0 Back of light switch was hot but did not burn my =
finger.
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=C2=A0
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<div>I have been through 4 headlight switches in the last 2.25 year=
s. The quality is just so poor. 12 uses out of first one, 8 use=
s out of 2nd one and the last one lasted 3 uses and gave out in the dark at=
the start of a 1,283 mile trip over 6 days. I had to sit on the side=
of the road and wait for the sun to come up. A buddy had a two posit=
ion 50 year old Sunbeam light switch we installed hanging under the dash on=
the first day of the trip, whew.</div><div><br></div><div>1973 MGB, origin=
al owner with 234K miles and the original switch lasted 230k miles. T=
ake your original switch apart and do everything you can to retain it.</div=
><div><br></div><div>Never any smoke, the switch just gives up the ghost. &=
nbsp;Supper poor quality, mechanically.</div><div><br></div><div>Installed =
Halogen lamps from a buddy with Moss relays and 4th Moss switch. I ha=
ve only used 3 times, so we will see if this works.</div><div><br></div><di=
v>Good luck.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div>
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<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal">Worked on the car a little t=
oday. discovered that the blinkers do indeed work so that=E2=80=99s g=
ood, and makes sense.
</p>=20
<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal"> </p>=20
<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal">We have a battery cutoff swi=
tch on this car so I decided to try a few things. I noticed that the =
light switch no longer moves at all. I cannot get the light switch to=
toggle at all so likely it is fried. Next step is to bypass the swit=
ch
and see if we get lights/action if I manually connect the wires. </p>=20
<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal"> </p>=20
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<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal">On 19/01/2022 02:32, dave no=
rthrup wrote:</p>=20
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<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;">
<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal"> </p>=20
<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal">Swapped transmissions, car r=
uns and drives fine, blinkers worked ok this afternoon until on the way hom=
e I switched on the lights.</p>=20
<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal"> </p>=20
<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal">Smoke from under the dash, I=
think on the passenger side but not positive. Turned the lights off, turne=
d the car off and popped the hood. No smoke in engine compartment. Ba=
ck of light switch was hot but did not burn my finger.</p>=20
<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal"> </p>=20
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<p>In that case it sounds like it was an output from the light
switch that shorted. Either the blue (headlights) or red/green
(parking and instrument lights) is probably also damaged, which
will indicate (pun not intended) where to look next.</p>
<p>Note that if the short caused enough damage inside the switch to
open the circuit, and disconnect the short, manually reconnecting
the wires will likely bring it back on again. With your cut-off
switch on tap first one then the other of the wires mentioned
above onto the brown and you should soon see which has the short -
if it's still present.<br>
</p>
<p>PaulH.<br>
</p>
<div class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970moz-cite-prefix">On 23/01/2022 00=
:34, dave northrup
wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type=3D"cite">
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<div class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970WordSection1"> I noticed =
that the light switch no
longer moves at all. I cannot get the light switch to toggle =
at
all so likely it is fried. Next step is to bypass the switch
and see if we get lights/action if I manually connect the wires.
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<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal"> </p>=20
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7983"><div id=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"></div><div=
dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"white-space: pre-wrap;" class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv=
0986361970Apple-tab-span">=09</span>Condition of the light switch does not =
sound encouraging, but you might remove it from the dash, open it, and see =
if it can be cleaned and saved. Original switches were good quality.</div><=
div dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"white-space: pre-wrap;" class=3D"ydpc53a9a66=
yiv0986361970Apple-tab-span">=09</span>At age 35 or so, my switch was warm =
to touch. I bought a new one. It was hot to touch. I opened and cleaned ori=
ginal, installed; it has been happy, and cool, ever since. Rela=
ys were installed later, but well after the old switch was back in service.=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"white-space: pre-wrap;" class=
=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970Apple-tab-span">=09</span>Good on you to have a=
battery cut-off switch. I am a believer. We know the condition of wi=
res where we can see them, but those we can not see ......</div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">Bob</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"w=
hite-space: pre-wrap;" class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970Apple-tab-span">=09=
</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Jan 22, 2022, at 7:34 PM, dave northru=
p <<a href=3D"mailto:dave@ranteer.com"; rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank=
">dave@ranteer.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">
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<div class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970WordSection1">
<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal">Worked on the car a little t=
oday. discovered that the blinkers do indeed work so that=E2=80=99s g=
ood, and makes sense.
</p>=20
<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal"> </p>=20
<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal">We have a battery cutoff swi=
tch on this car so I decided to try a few things. I noticed that the =
light switch no longer moves at all. I cannot get the light switch to=
toggle at all so likely it is fried. Next step is to bypass the swit=
ch
and see if we get lights/action if I manually connect the wires. </p>=20
<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal"> </p>=20
<div>
<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal">On 19/01/2022 02:32, dave no=
rthrup wrote:</p>=20
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;">
<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal"> </p>=20
<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal">Swapped transmissions, car r=
uns and drives fine, blinkers worked ok this afternoon until on the way hom=
e I switched on the lights.</p>=20
<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal"> </p>=20
<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal">Smoke from under the dash, I=
think on the passenger side but not positive. Turned the lights off, turne=
d the car off and popped the hood. No smoke in engine compartment. Ba=
ck of light switch was hot but did not burn my finger.</p>=20
<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal"> </p>=20
</blockquote>
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