--===============5375027463829531690==
--000000000000ee15ea05a42729b9
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I love SUs. They are elegant machines that solve dynamic problems that
later will be solved by computer algorithms!
On Sat, Apr 25, 2020, 7:25 PM Osborne, Paul <paul@ece.rochester.edu> wrote:
> Rick, Yes, I wondered what he referred to when he said Clean, thought i=
t
> might be the outward looks possibly not inside and operational. Good
> comments below.
>
> paul
>
>
> On Apr 25, 2020, at 8:53 AM, Richard Lindsay via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> Paul had some good suggestions and I agree. But Tom, I find myself
> pondering over your word 'clean'. Do you mean 'shine them up' or 'remove
> deposits from inside'? Carb cleaner is good for both jobs and let me add=
a
> word or two if cleaning inside is the quest.
>
> I just cleaned the SUs on my TD and doing so made a world of difference.
> But first of all, someone here said, "Most carburetor problems are
> electrical." That's a funny turn of phrase but it's true. I tuned and tun=
ed
> my TD's SUs before putting the timing light on the TD and discovered that
> the timing was jumping around. New springs in the distributor's mechanica=
l
> advance calmed the jitter making carburetor tuning a one time affair. But
> back to cleaning.
>
> I marked the covers for rotation position, removed the damper pistons, an=
d
> removed the covers, setting them aside carefully, labeled 'F' and 'R'. I
> then lifted out the air pistons complete with needles, dumped out the oil=
,
> and set them aside with their covers.
>
> Using fresh, clean, pipe cleaners wetted with carb cleaner, I carefully
> ran the pipe cleaners up and down the jets, switching to a new pipe clean=
er
> as the previous one became discolored. I then wiped the chokes clean with=
a
> shop rag and carb cleaner. That finished the carb bodies.
>
> I next cleaned the air pistons and needles with carb cleaner and shop rag=
s
> paying particular care to protect the needles. I also sprayed carb cleane=
r
> into the damper bore, washing out any old oil. The insides of the covers
> were wiped clean and the piston bores were flushed clean.
>
> I live in a very humid climate where rust flashes quickly. I don't know
> whether the air pistons and bores are stainless but I took no chances. I
> applied 3-in-1 oil to the air pistons and inserted them into the bores in
> the covers, coating all with light oil.
>
> Back at the car I verified that the heights of the jets and were the same
> then switched on the fuel pump. Petrol came to the top of one jet but not
> to the other. I adjusted the float bowl valve until both levels were the
> same.
>
> Back in went the air pistons, the covers on and the screws tightened
> gradually checking for proper piston drop as they were snugged down. BTW,=
I
> use lockwashers on the carb bowl screws so they don't work loose but more
> importantly, so they don't need to be over-tightened.
>
> The rest is tuning. Airflow was balanced and the mixture was reset.
>
> The part I left out was cleaning the needles but that's quite
> controversial so let's leave it at, "I cleaned the needles."
>
> And of course, this is just my story, not an authoritative treatise on SU
> maintenance. Maybe it helps someone.
>
> Rick
>
> On Sat, Apr 25, 2020, 5:54 AM Thomas Gunderson via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.ne=
t>
> wrote:
>
>> What is a good way to clean SU carbs without removing them?
>>
>> Tom Gunderson
>> 1957 MGA 1500 rst
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone X
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>> Mgs@autox.team.net
>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttp-3A__www.team.net_dona=
te.html&d=3DDwMFaQ&c=3Dkbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHBeTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=3Dj_uK=
0-rtrtcKZ8O0aGq-Y5ZUDfHjCD_Cv57WMn_czag&m=3DwgCpvTNH3M_WmxQEBLZBx8BpHo_C-Qx=
_WC8viTrC2QE&s=3DTDsMemspzCHAKPUiK8oXsjoucwPjSkKxdALG90HybX4&e=3D>
>> Suggested annual donation $12.75
>>
>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttp-3A__www.team.net_pipe=
rmail_mgs&d=3DDwMFaQ&c=3Dkbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHBeTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=3Dj_=
uK0-rtrtcKZ8O0aGq-Y5ZUDfHjCD_Cv57WMn_czag&m=3DwgCpvTNH3M_WmxQEBLZBx8BpHo_C-=
Qx_WC8viTrC2QE&s=3D0CFlaGSdnyxzieb0DW7kDjD5C9spcRXALkW1DjTxd20&e=3D>
>> http://autox.team.net/archive
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttp-3A__autox.team.net_ar=
chive&d=3DDwMFaQ&c=3Dkbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHBeTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=3Dj_uK0-=
rtrtcKZ8O0aGq-Y5ZUDfHjCD_Cv57WMn_czag&m=3DwgCpvTNH3M_WmxQEBLZBx8BpHo_C-Qx_W=
C8viTrC2QE&s=3DU1nL_5XCzSB2sukUiIuMbt6zYVHwDAEwO_Gh4XJJLvg&e=3D>
>>
>> Unsubscribe:
>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/richardolindsay@gmail.com
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttp-3A__autox.team.net_ma=
ilman_options_mgs_richardolindsay-40gmail.com&d=3DDwMFaQ&c=3Dkbmfwr1Yojg42s=
GEpaQh5ofMHBeTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=3Dj_uK0-rtrtcKZ8O0aGq-Y5ZUDfHjCD_Cv57WMn_cz=
ag&m=3DwgCpvTNH3M_WmxQEBLZBx8BpHo_C-Qx_WC8viTrC2QE&s=3Ds72j6IJ0gb_YTkwqMlVx=
2lYadn-uGjNRzOoJx8kg0cM&e=3D>
>>
> _______________________________________________
>
> Mgs@autox.team.net
> Donate:
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttp-3A__www.team.net_donate=
.html&d=3DDwICAg&c=3Dkbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHBeTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=3Dj_uK0-=
rtrtcKZ8O0aGq-Y5ZUDfHjCD_Cv57WMn_czag&m=3DwgCpvTNH3M_WmxQEBLZBx8BpHo_C-Qx_W=
C8viTrC2QE&s=3DTDsMemspzCHAKPUiK8oXsjoucwPjSkKxdALG90HybX4&e=3D
> Suggested annual donation $12.75
>
> Archive:
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttp-3A__www.team.net_piperm=
ail_mgs&d=3DDwICAg&c=3Dkbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHBeTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=3Dj_uK=
0-rtrtcKZ8O0aGq-Y5ZUDfHjCD_Cv57WMn_czag&m=3DwgCpvTNH3M_WmxQEBLZBx8BpHo_C-Qx=
_WC8viTrC2QE&s=3D0CFlaGSdnyxzieb0DW7kDjD5C9spcRXALkW1DjTxd20&e=3D
>
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttp-3A__autox.team.net_arch=
ive&d=3DDwICAg&c=3Dkbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHBeTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=3Dj_uK0-rt=
rtcKZ8O0aGq-Y5ZUDfHjCD_Cv57WMn_czag&m=3DwgCpvTNH3M_WmxQEBLZBx8BpHo_C-Qx_WC8=
viTrC2QE&s=3DU1nL_5XCzSB2sukUiIuMbt6zYVHwDAEwO_Gh4XJJLvg&e=3D
>
> Unsubscribe:
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttp-3A__autox.team.net_mail=
man_options_mgs_paul-40ece.rochester.edu&d=3DDwICAg&c=3Dkbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQ=
h5ofMHBeTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=3Dj_uK0-rtrtcKZ8O0aGq-Y5ZUDfHjCD_Cv57WMn_czag&m=
=3DwgCpvTNH3M_WmxQEBLZBx8BpHo_C-Qx_WC8viTrC2QE&s=3DSm95m6yWseMeg0n1hyRfom98=
0c44_6ewDCVhETtdoJ8&e=3D
>
>
> Paul Osborne
> Department of Electrical and Computer Eng
> University of Rochester
> 201 Hopeman Building RC
> Rochester NY 14627
>
> 585-275-5226
>
>
>
>
>
>
--000000000000ee15ea05a42729b9
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
<div dir=3D"auto">I love SUs. They are elegant machines that solve dynamic =
problems that later will be solved by computer algorithms!</div><br><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Apr 25, 2=
020, 7:25 PM Osborne, Paul <<a href=3D"mailto:paul@ece.rochester.edu";>pa=
ul@ece.rochester.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quo=
te" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"=
>
<div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">
Rick, =C2=A0 Yes, I wondered what he referred to when he said Clean, though=
t it might be the outward looks possibly not inside and operational. Good c=
omments below.=C2=A0
<div><br>
</div>
<div>paul</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
<div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div>On Apr 25, 2020, at 8:53 AM, Richard Lindsay via Mgs <<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:mgs@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">mgs@autox.tea=
m.net</a>> wrote:</div>
<br>
<div>
<div dir=3D"auto">
<div>Paul had some good suggestions and I agree. But Tom, I find myself pon=
dering over your word 'clean'. Do you mean 'shine them up' =
or 'remove deposits from inside'?=C2=A0 Carb cleaner is good for bo=
th jobs and let me add a word or two if cleaning inside
is the quest.</div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">I just cleaned the SUs on my TD and doing so made a world=
of difference. But first of all, someone here said, "Most carburetor =
problems are electrical." That's a funny turn of phrase but it'=
;s true. I tuned and tuned my TD's SUs before
putting the timing light on the TD and discovered that the timing was jump=
ing around. New springs in the distributor's mechanical advance calmed =
the jitter making carburetor tuning a one time affair. But back to cleaning=
.</div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">I marked the covers for rotation position, removed the da=
mper pistons, and removed the covers, setting them aside carefully, labeled=
'F' and 'R'. I then lifted out the air pistons complete wi=
th needles, dumped out the oil, and set them
aside with their covers.=C2=A0</div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">Using fresh, clean, pipe cleaners wetted with carb cleane=
r, I carefully ran the pipe cleaners up and down the jets, switching to a n=
ew pipe cleaner as the previous one became discolored. I then wiped the cho=
kes clean with a shop rag
and carb cleaner. That finished the carb bodies.</div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">I next cleaned the air pistons and needles with carb clea=
ner and shop rags paying particular care to protect the needles. I also spr=
ayed carb cleaner into the damper bore, washing out any old oil. The inside=
s of the covers were wiped
clean and the piston bores were flushed clean.</div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">I live in a very humid climate where rust flashes quickly=
. I don't know whether the air pistons and bores are stainless but I to=
ok no chances. I applied 3-in-1 oil to the air pistons and inserted them in=
to the bores in the covers, coating
all with light oil.</div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">Back at the car I verified that the heights of the jets a=
nd were the same then switched on the fuel pump. Petrol came to the top of =
one jet but not to the other. I adjusted the float bowl valve until both le=
vels were the same.</div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">Back in went the air pistons, the covers on and the screw=
s tightened gradually checking for proper piston drop as they were snugged =
down. BTW, I use lockwashers on the carb bowl screws so they don't work=
loose but more importantly,
so they don't need to be over-tightened.</div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">The rest is tuning. Airflow was balanced and the mixture =
was reset.</div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">The part I left out was cleaning the needles but that'=
;s quite controversial so let's leave it at, "I cleaned the needle=
s."</div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">And of course, this is just my story, not an authoritativ=
e treatise on SU maintenance. Maybe it helps someone.</div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">Rick<br>
<br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote" dir=3D"auto">
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Apr 25, 2020, 5:54 AM Thomas =
Gunderson via Mgs <<a href=3D"mailto:mgs@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blan=
k" rel=3D"noreferrer">mgs@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
What is a good way to clean SU carbs without removing them?<br>
<br>
Tom Gunderson<br>
1957 MGA 1500 rst<br>
<br>
Sent from my iPhone X<br>
<br>
<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"mailto:Mgs@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=
=3D"_blank">Mgs@autox.team.net</a><br>
w.team.net_donate.html&d=3DDwMFaQ&c=3Dkbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHBeTl=
9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=3Dj_uK0-rtrtcKZ8O0aGq-Y5ZUDfHjCD_Cv57WMn_czag&m=3D=
wgCpvTNH3M_WmxQEBLZBx8BpHo_C-Qx_WC8viTrC2QE&s=3DTDsMemspzCHAKPUiK8oXsjo=
ucwPjSkKxdALG90HybX4&e=3D" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" tar=
get=3D"_blank">
<br>
Archive: <a href=3D"https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttp-3A__w=
ww.team.net_pipermail_mgs&d=3DDwMFaQ&c=3Dkbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHB=
eTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=3Dj_uK0-rtrtcKZ8O0aGq-Y5ZUDfHjCD_Cv57WMn_czag&m=
=3DwgCpvTNH3M_WmxQEBLZBx8BpHo_C-Qx_WC8viTrC2QE&s=3D0CFlaGSdnyxzieb0DW7k=
DjD5C9spcRXALkW1DjTxd20&e=3D" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" =
target=3D"_blank">
http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs</a> <a href=3D"https://urldefense.proofpo=
int.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttp-3A__autox.team.net_archive&d=3DDwMFaQ&c=3Dk=
bmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHBeTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=3Dj_uK0-rtrtcKZ8O0aGq-Y5ZU=
DfHjCD_Cv57WMn_czag&m=3DwgCpvTNH3M_WmxQEBLZBx8BpHo_C-Qx_WC8viTrC2QE&=
;s=3DU1nL_5XCzSB2sukUiIuMbt6zYVHwDAEwO_Gh4XJJLvg&e=3D" rel=3D"noreferre=
r noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">
http://autox.team.net/archive</a><br>
<br>
Unsubscribe: <a href=3D"https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttp-3=
A__autox.team.net_mailman_options_mgs_richardolindsay-40gmail.com&d=3DD=
wMFaQ&c=3Dkbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHBeTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=3Dj_uK0-rtr=
tcKZ8O0aGq-Y5ZUDfHjCD_Cv57WMn_czag&m=3DwgCpvTNH3M_WmxQEBLZBx8BpHo_C-Qx_=
WC8viTrC2QE&s=3Ds72j6IJ0gb_YTkwqMlVx2lYadn-uGjNRzOoJx8kg0cM&e=3D" r=
el=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">
http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/richardolindsay@gmail.com</a><br>
</blockquote>
</div>
</div>
</div>
_______________________________________________<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"mailto:Mgs@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">=
Mgs@autox.team.net</a><br>
w.team.net_donate.html&d=3DDwICAg&c=3Dkbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHBeTl=
9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=3Dj_uK0-rtrtcKZ8O0aGq-Y5ZUDfHjCD_Cv57WMn_czag&m=3D=
wgCpvTNH3M_WmxQEBLZBx8BpHo_C-Qx_WC8viTrC2QE&s=3DTDsMemspzCHAKPUiK8oXsjo=
ucwPjSkKxdALG90HybX4&e=3D" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">https:/=
/urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttp-3A__www.team.net_donate.html&=
;d=3DDwICAg&c=3Dkbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHBeTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=3Dj_u=
K0-rtrtcKZ8O0aGq-Y5ZUDfHjCD_Cv57WMn_czag&m=3DwgCpvTNH3M_WmxQEBLZBx8BpHo=
_C-Qx_WC8viTrC2QE&s=3DTDsMemspzCHAKPUiK8oXsjoucwPjSkKxdALG90HybX4&e=
=3D</a>
<br>
<br>
Archive: <a href=3D"https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttp-3A__w=
ww.team.net_pipermail_mgs&d=3DDwICAg&c=3Dkbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHB=
eTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=3Dj_uK0-rtrtcKZ8O0aGq-Y5ZUDfHjCD_Cv57WMn_czag&m=
=3DwgCpvTNH3M_WmxQEBLZBx8BpHo_C-Qx_WC8viTrC2QE&s=3D0CFlaGSdnyxzieb0DW7k=
DjD5C9spcRXALkW1DjTxd20&e=3D" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">http=
s://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttp-3A__www.team.net_pipermail_mg=
s&d=3DDwICAg&c=3Dkbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHBeTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=
=3Dj_uK0-rtrtcKZ8O0aGq-Y5ZUDfHjCD_Cv57WMn_czag&m=3DwgCpvTNH3M_WmxQEBLZB=
x8BpHo_C-Qx_WC8viTrC2QE&s=3D0CFlaGSdnyxzieb0DW7kDjD5C9spcRXALkW1DjTxd20=
&e=3D</a>
=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttp-3A__aut=
ox.team.net_archive&d=3DDwICAg&c=3Dkbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHBeTl9EI=
2eaqQZhHbOU&r=3Dj_uK0-rtrtcKZ8O0aGq-Y5ZUDfHjCD_Cv57WMn_czag&m=3DwgC=
pvTNH3M_WmxQEBLZBx8BpHo_C-Qx_WC8viTrC2QE&s=3DU1nL_5XCzSB2sukUiIuMbt6zYV=
HwDAEwO_Gh4XJJLvg&e=3D" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">https://ur=
ldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttp-3A__autox.team.net_archive&d=3D=
DwICAg&c=3Dkbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHBeTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=3Dj_uK0-rt=
rtcKZ8O0aGq-Y5ZUDfHjCD_Cv57WMn_czag&m=3DwgCpvTNH3M_WmxQEBLZBx8BpHo_C-Qx=
_WC8viTrC2QE&s=3DU1nL_5XCzSB2sukUiIuMbt6zYVHwDAEwO_Gh4XJJLvg&e=3D</=
a>
<br>
<br>
Unsubscribe: <a href=3D"https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttp-3=
A__autox.team.net_mailman_options_mgs_paul-40ece.rochester.edu&d=3DDwIC=
Ag&c=3Dkbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHBeTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=3Dj_uK0-rtrtcK=
Z8O0aGq-Y5ZUDfHjCD_Cv57WMn_czag&m=3DwgCpvTNH3M_WmxQEBLZBx8BpHo_C-Qx_WC8=
viTrC2QE&s=3DSm95m6yWseMeg0n1hyRfom980c44_6ewDCVhETtdoJ8&e=3D" targ=
et=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=
=3Dhttp-3A__autox.team.net_mailman_options_mgs_paul-40ece.rochester.edu&=
;d=3DDwICAg&c=3Dkbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHBeTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=3Dj_u=
K0-rtrtcKZ8O0aGq-Y5ZUDfHjCD_Cv57WMn_czag&m=3DwgCpvTNH3M_WmxQEBLZBx8BpHo=
_C-Qx_WC8viTrC2QE&s=3DSm95m6yWseMeg0n1hyRfom980c44_6ewDCVhETtdoJ8&e=
=3D</a>
<br>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
<br>
<div>
<div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-=
indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;word-wra=
p:break-word">
<div>
<div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">
<div>
<div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">
<div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">
<div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">
<span style=3D"border-collapse:separate;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-=
variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-east-asi=
an:normal;line-height:normal;border-spacing:0px">
<div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div>
<div>
<div><span style=3D"border-collapse:separate;font-variant-ligatures:normal;=
font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-eas=
t-asian:normal;line-height:normal"><span style=3D"border-collapse:separate;=
font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-alte=
rnates:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;line-height:normal">
<div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 12pt;font-size:12pt">Paul Os=
borne<br>
Department of Electrical and Computer Eng<br>
University of Rochester=C2=A0<br>
201 Hopeman Building RC<br>
Rochester NY 14627<br>
</p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</span></span></div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:16px">=C2=A0 =C2=A0585-275-5226</span><span s=
tyle=3D"white-space:pre-wrap">
</span></div>
<div><br>
</div>
</div>
</span></div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
</div>
<br>
<br>
</div>
<br>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote></div>
--000000000000ee15ea05a42729b9--
--===============5375027463829531690==
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline
_______________________________________________
Mgs@autox.team.net
Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive
Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net
--===============5375027463829531690==--
|