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Subject: Re: [Mgs] FW: dashboard install
From: Max Heim via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net>
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2020 11:16:07 -0700
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I am not a huge fan of playing with electrical systems, speaking for =
myself.

When it came to wiring my completely stripped-to-metal MGB roadster, I =
re-used the original harness that I had pulled out of the =E2=80=9Cbarn =
find", on the theory that the copper doesn=E2=80=99t go bad. Since the =
cotton wrap had more or less completely disintegrated, I removed the =
remnants and rewrapped it in black plastic. This gave me an opportunity =
to inspect the entire run. When removing it, I had used small Avery =
labels to identify each connector, and had cleaned every male bullet and =
bought a supply of the female connectors. In the end, I had to make a =
few splices to reverse the polarity on the tach, hook up the alternator, =
and replace some brittle insulation in the engine compartment runs. To =
address one major flaw, I installed a headlight relay kit, out of sight =
under the bonnet latch platform. But I did not feel it necessary to =
redesign the system or install multiple extra fuses. I have a points =
distributor, I am not even running a radio, and certainly have no =
intention of adding gimmicks like power door locks or windows, heated =
seats, or air conditioning. The charm of the MG is its simplicity.

--
Max Heim
'66 MGB



> On Apr 21, 2020, at 10:26 AM, Richard Lindsay via Mgs =
<mgs@autox.team.net> wrote:
>=20
>    Great fun and encouraging to read this, Dave. There must be some =
primal satisfaction involved. There certainly is for me, even if poorly =
understood. My TD got new harnesses. See attached.
>=20
>    I am now finishing a TR6 and keeping the original harness, but have =
replaced most connectors and verified / improved grounds.
>    Next up? My 1971 Volvo 1800E project is getting 'new' self-made =
dash wiring and engine room harness. Woohoo.
>=20
> Rick
>=20
> On Tue, Apr 21, 2020, 12:09 PM dave via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net =
> In fact I very much enjoy wiring.  I have built entire wiring =
harnesses from scratch, carefully following the color scheme.  I will =
admit on one car I changed it from a 4 fuse system to a 10 fuse system.  =
Everything had its own fuse and everything was grounded directly.  Never =
an electrical problem on that car!
>=20
> I am now restoring 2 mga=E2=80=99s, albeit one at a time.  I will be =
emulating the factory harness in every way possible, building it from =
scratch.  That takes a lot of research and questions, and Barney has =
been extremely helpful.  Get the right color through the right holes, =
use the connectors in the right places, all a challenge.  Fortunately =
the one is my reference as I do the other.
>=20
> And, btw, I didn=E2=80=99t start out to restore 2.  Someone offered me =
a deal I couldn=E2=80=99t refuse on the second one, which needed a new =
throw out bearing.  But the paint was wrong and so awful we were going =
to clean it up.  and then . . . .    shipwright=E2=80=99s disease =
totally got me.  The wiring was so bad (the DPO pretty much just used =
red and blue wires) that I cut it out and threw it out.
>=20
> Today I hope to make some big progress on the chassis (it is half =
restored, as in the back half), and I=E2=80=99ve got parts hanging in =
the side yard that I painted this morning.
>=20
> From: Mgs On Behalf Of Richard Lindsay
>=20
>    Perhaps I'm the only guy who enjoys wiring and electrical systems! =
I just find it rewarding to get everything connected correctly and the =
harness bits aligned. Go figure!
>=20
>    My TD is simplicity itself but the other LBC project takes some =
thinking. It's a US specification 1975 TR6. And as we all know, the '70s =
was a time of turmoil for our LBCs; None the least of which was the =
electrics! Part of my goal with this car is to create a CORRECT wiring =
diagram with CORRECT color codes! Nothing I have found published matches =
my car, including the schematics labeled 'U.S.A. Only'.
>=20
>    Still, for a guy like me who builds and restores cars rather than =
driving them, this is a perfect challenge (storm?)! There are other =
projects in the queue too, but they are even further OT than Triumph =
talk...so I will leave Volvo, Lancia, and Jaguar words for others.
>=20
> Rick, in Houston
>=20
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class=3D"">I am not a huge fan of playing with electrical systems, =
speaking for myself.<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">When it came to wiring my completely stripped-to-metal MGB =
roadster, I re-used the original harness that I had pulled out of the =
=E2=80=9Cbarn find", on the theory that the copper doesn=E2=80=99t go =
bad. Since the cotton wrap had more or less completely disintegrated, I =
removed the remnants and rewrapped it in black plastic. This gave me an =
opportunity to inspect the entire run. When removing it, I had used =
small Avery labels to identify each connector, and had cleaned every =
male bullet and bought a supply of the female connectors. In the end, I =
had to make a few splices to reverse the polarity on the tach, hook up =
the alternator, and replace some brittle insulation in the engine =
compartment runs. To address one major flaw, I installed a headlight =
relay kit, out of sight under the bonnet latch platform. But I did not =
feel it necessary to redesign the system or install multiple extra =
fuses. I have a points distributor, I am not even running a radio, and =
certainly have no intention of adding gimmicks like power door locks or =
windows, heated seats, or air conditioning. The charm of the MG is its =
simplicity.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div class=3D"">
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<br class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Apr 21, 2020, at 10:26 AM, Richard Lindsay via Mgs &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:mgs@autox.team.net"; class=3D"">mgs@autox.team.net</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
dir=3D"auto" class=3D""><div class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp;Great fun and =
encouraging to read this, Dave. There must be some primal satisfaction =
involved. There certainly is for me, even if poorly understood. My TD =
got new harnesses. See attached.</div><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp;I am now =
finishing a TR6 and keeping the original harness, but have replaced most =
connectors and verified / improved grounds.</div><div dir=3D"auto" =
class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp;Next up? My 1971 Volvo 1800E project is getting =
'new' self-made dash wiring and engine room harness. Woohoo.</div><div =
dir=3D"auto" class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div dir=3D"auto" =
class=3D"">Rick<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><div class=3D"gmail_quote" =
dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Apr 21, 2020, =
12:09 PM dave via Mgs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mgs@autox.team.net"; =
class=3D"">mgs@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br =
class=3D""></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-US" =
link=3D"#0563C1" vlink=3D"#954F72" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"m_1232432743811470486WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">In =
fact I very much enjoy wiring.&nbsp; I have built entire wiring =
harnesses from scratch, carefully following the color scheme.&nbsp; I =
will admit on one car I changed it from a 4 fuse system to a 10 fuse =
system.&nbsp; Everything had its own fuse and everything was grounded =
directly.&nbsp; Never an electrical problem on that car!</p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal">I am now restoring 2 mga=E2=80=99s, albeit one at a =
time.&nbsp; I will be emulating the factory harness in every way =
possible, building it from scratch.&nbsp; That takes a lot of research =
and questions, and Barney has been extremely helpful.&nbsp; Get the =
right color through the right holes, use the connectors in the right =
places, all a challenge.&nbsp; Fortunately the one is my reference as I =
do the other.</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">And, btw, I didn=E2=80=99t start =
out to restore 2.&nbsp; Someone offered me a deal I couldn=E2=80=99t =
refuse on the second one, which needed a new throw out bearing.&nbsp; =
But the paint was wrong and so awful we were going to clean it up.&nbsp; =
and then . . . .&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; shipwright=E2=80=99s disease totally =
got me.&nbsp; The wiring was so bad (the DPO pretty much just used red =
and blue wires) that I cut it out and threw it out.</p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal">Today I hope to make some big progress on the =
chassis (it is half restored, as in the back half), and I=E2=80=99ve got =
parts hanging in the side yard that I painted this morning.</p><div =
style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in" class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b class=3D"">From:</b> Mgs =
<b class=3D"">On Behalf Of </b>Richard Lindsay<br =
class=3D""></p></div><div class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp; =
&nbsp;Perhaps I'm the only guy who enjoys wiring and electrical systems! =
I just find it rewarding to get everything connected correctly and the =
harness bits aligned. Go figure!<u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></p><div class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp; =
&nbsp;My TD is simplicity itself but the other LBC project takes some =
thinking. It's a US specification 1975 TR6. And as we all know, the '70s =
was a time of turmoil for our LBCs; None the least of which was the =
electrics! Part of my goal with this car is to create a CORRECT wiring =
diagram with CORRECT color codes! Nothing I have found published matches =
my car, including the schematics labeled 'U.S.A. Only'.<u =
class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></p></div><div class=3D""><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp; &nbsp;Still, for a guy like me who builds and =
restores cars rather than driving them, this is a perfect challenge =
(storm?)! There are other projects in the queue too, but they are even =
further OT than Triumph talk...so I will leave Volvo, Lancia, and Jaguar =
words for others.</p></div><div class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Rick, =
in Houston</p></div></div></div></div>
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