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I don't want to quibble, but I think =E2=80=9Cless than expected=E2=80=9D =
or =E2=80=9Cinsufficient=E2=80=9D are also perfectly valid meanings. If =
I lack money to pay my bills, that doesn=E2=80=99t mean I have =
absolutely zero money to my name. I just don't have enough.
I would say that the =E2=80=9Cnot intended for passenger vehicles=E2=80=9D=
part of the quote justifies my =E2=80=9Cinsufficient=E2=80=9D =
assumption. What else could it be referring to? =E2=80=9CToo much=E2=80=9D=
anti-friction or anti-wear? Hardly.
Again, I wasn=E2=80=99t actually criiticizing the idea of using this =
oil. Lower level of detergent isn=E2=80=99t an engine-killer, if you =
change the oil regularly. I just know that a lot of people drive their =
vintage cars infrequently and irregularly, and may not change the oil =
all that often, so I would hesitate to recommend it as the first option, =
since there are other alternatives available.
--
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'66 MGB
> On Jun 19, 2019, at 9:38 AM, Charley Robinson <Charley38@twc.com> =
wrote:
>=20
> Okay but you said "lack of detergents" and to me that says no =
detergents because it's the most common usage of the word.
>=20
> CR =20
>=20
> On 6/19/2019 11:27 AM, Max Heim via Mgs wrote:
>> Quote from the first paragraph of the FAQ:
>>=20
>> The Valvoline VR1 Racing and other racing oils =
<https://www.valvoline.com/our-products/motor-oil> not intended for =
passenger vehicles contain additional additives for increased horsepower =
and reduced friction on metal parts, provide extra wear protection for =
high compression/higher horsepower engines, and include fewer detergents =
than regular conventional motor oils.
>>=20
>> So, that answers that question. If you change your oil frequently, it =
probably isn=E2=80=99t a problem, though.
>>=20
>> I have used racing oil in the transmission, however, because reduced =
friction and wear protection are relevant concepts, and detergent is =
pointless (since no combustion blow-by).
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> --
>> Max Heim
>> '66 MGB
>>=20
>>=20
>>> On Jun 19, 2019, at 8:37 AM, Charley Robinson <Charley38@twc.com =
>>>=20
>>> VR1 contains an additive package. I would hope there's a detergent =
in it, because it's what I'm using.=20
>>> Viz: https://www.valvoline.com/about-us/faq/racing-oil-faq =
<https://www.valvoline.com/about-us/faq/racing-oil-faq>
>>>=20
>>> CR
>>>=20
>>> On 6/17/2019 5:06 PM, Max Heim via Mgs wrote:
>>>>=20
>>>> Valvoline VR1 Racing Oil is one (although it may be non-optimal for =
other reasons, such as lack of detergent)
>>>> Mobil1 Synthetic 15W50 (this weight ONLY in this brand)
>>>> Certain weights from Kendall, Royal Purple, Gibbs
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>> --
>>>> Max Heim
>>>> '66 MGB
>>>>=20
>>>>> On Jun 17, 2019, at 2:47 PM, Bert Palte via Mgs =
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Yes, also over here in Europe it has become less easily available.
>>>>> If nothing else is available, 10W40 will do.
>>>>> I use mineral oil. That is good enough, our cars aren't high tech!
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Bert=20
>>>>> 70 B=20
>>>>> SA4BRL=20
>>>>> PA0LPS
>>>>> --=20
>>>>> Sent from my Android phone with GMX Mail. Please excuse my =
brevity.
>>>>> On 2019-06-17, 23:19 dave via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net =
>>>>> I=E2=80=99ve been using Valvoline 20w 50 full synthetic for =
several years now, and it used to be immediately available from Amazon =
with free shipping. It has zddp.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> =20
>>>>> Now its 1 to 2 months.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> =20
>>>>> However =E2=80=93 Advanced Auto Parts - =
https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/valvoline-vr1-racing-20w-50-full-synth=
etic-motor-oil-1-quart-679082/10069836-P?searchTerm=3Dvalvoline+20w-50+ful=
l+synthetic =
<https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/valvoline-vr1-racing-20w-50-full-synt=
hetic-motor-oil-1-quart-679082/10069836-P?searchTerm=3Dvalvoline+20w-50+fu=
ll+synthetic>
>>>>>=20
>>>>> =20
>>>>> free shipping with a minimum order of $25, which is 3 quarts. You =
can buy it any number of quarts (from Amazon it=E2=80=99s a 6 pack), and =
it=E2=80=99s a couple pennies cheaper!!!
>>>>>=20
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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D"">I don't want to quibble, but I think =E2=80=9Cless than =
expected=E2=80=9D or =E2=80=9Cinsufficient=E2=80=9D are also perfectly =
valid meanings. If I lack money to pay my bills, that doesn=E2=80=99t =
mean I have absolutely zero money to my name. I just don't have =
enough.<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I would say =
that the =E2=80=9Cnot intended for passenger vehicles=E2=80=9D part of =
the quote justifies my =E2=80=9Cinsufficient=E2=80=9D assumption. What =
else could it be referring to? =E2=80=9CToo much=E2=80=9D anti-friction =
or anti-wear? Hardly.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Again, I wasn=E2=80=99t actually criiticizing the idea of =
using this oil. Lower level of detergent isn=E2=80=99t an engine-killer, =
if you change the oil regularly. I just know that a lot of people drive =
their vintage cars infrequently and irregularly, and may not change the =
oil all that often, so I would hesitate to recommend it as the first =
option, since there are other alternatives available.</div><div =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div class=3D"">
<div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; text-align: =
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min-height: 16px;" class=3D"">Max Heim</div><div style=3D"margin: 0px; =
font-size: 13px;" class=3D"">'66 MGB</div></div></div>
</div>
<br class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Jun 19, 2019, at 9:38 AM, Charley Robinson <<a =
href=3D"mailto:Charley38@twc.com" class=3D"">Charley38@twc.com</a>> =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D"">
=20
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charset=3DUTF-8" class=3D"">
=20
<div text=3D"#000000" bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF" class=3D"">
Okay but you said "lack of detergents" and to me that says no
detergents because it's the most common usage of the word.<br =
class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
CR <br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
<div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 6/19/2019 11:27 AM, Max Heim via =
Mgs
wrote:<br class=3D"">
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite" =
cite=3D"mid:A82F8572-9D2B-4E26-B242-9A060A2E9D34@sonic.net" class=3D"">
<meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3DUTF-8" class=3D"">
Quote from the first paragraph of the FAQ:
<div class=3D""><br class=3D"">
</div>
<div class=3D""><span style=3D"color: rgb(125, 126, 126); =
font-family:
Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16.799999237060547px;
background-color: rgb(254, 254, 254);" class=3D"">The =
Valvoline
VR1 Racing and other </span><a id=3D"lnkRacingOils" =
href=3D"https://www.valvoline.com/our-products/motor-oil" =
style=3D"box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px;
border: none; color: rgb(25, 25, 25); font-family: Helvetica,
Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16.799999237060547px;" class=3D"" =
moz-do-not-send=3D"true">racing oils</a><span style=3D"color:
rgb(125, 126, 126); font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;
font-size: 16.799999237060547px; background-color: rgb(254,
254, 254);" class=3D""> not intended for passenger =
vehicles
contain additional additives for increased horsepower and
reduced friction on metal parts, provide extra wear protection
for high compression/higher horsepower engines, and include <u =
class=3D"">fewer detergents</u> than regular conventional
motor oils.</span></div>
<div class=3D""><span style=3D"color: rgb(125, 126, 126); =
font-family:
Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16.799999237060547px;
background-color: rgb(254, 254, 254);" class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">
</span></div>
<div class=3D"">So, that answers that question. If you change your
oil frequently, it probably isn=E2=80=99t a problem, =
though.</div>
<div class=3D""><br class=3D"">
</div>
<div class=3D"">I have used racing oil in the transmission, =
however,
because reduced friction and wear protection are relevant
concepts, and detergent is pointless (since no combustion
blow-by).</div>
<div class=3D""><br class=3D"">
</div>
<div class=3D""><br class=3D"">
</div>
<div class=3D"">
<div class=3D"">
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text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: =
break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: =
after-white-space;" class=3D"">
<div style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 13px;" =
class=3D"">--</div>
<div style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 13px; min-height:
16px;" class=3D"">Max Heim</div>
<div style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 13px;" class=3D"">'66
MGB</div>
</div>
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<br class=3D"">
<div class=3D"">
<blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">
<div class=3D"">On Jun 19, 2019, at 8:37 AM, Charley =
Robinson
<<a href=3D"mailto:Charley38@twc.com" class=3D"" =
moz-do-not-send=3D"true">Charley38@twc.com</a>> wrote:</div>
<br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline">
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charset=3DUTF-8" class=3D"">
<div text=3D"#000000" bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF" class=3D""> VR1
contains an additive package. I would hope there's a
detergent in it, because it's what I'm using. <br =
class=3D"">
Viz: <a =
href=3D"https://www.valvoline.com/about-us/faq/racing-oil-faq" class=3D"" =
moz-do-not-send=3D"true">https://www.valvoline.com/about-us/faq/racing-oil=
-faq</a><br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
CR<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
<div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 6/17/2019 5:06 PM, Max
Heim via Mgs wrote:<br class=3D"">
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite" =
cite=3D"mid:303432D7-3DF9-4BB4-8756-DDBF441460C0@sonic.net" class=3D"">
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charset=3DUTF-8" class=3D"">
<div class=3D""><br class=3D"">
</div>
<div class=3D"">Valvoline VR1 Racing Oil is one
(although it may be non-optimal for other reasons,
such as lack of detergent)</div>
<div class=3D"">Mobil1 Synthetic 15W50 (this weight =
ONLY
in this brand)</div>
<div class=3D"">Certain weights from Kendall, Royal
Purple, Gibbs<br class=3D"">
<div class=3D""><br class=3D"">
</div>
<br class=3D"">
<div class=3D""><br class=3D"">
<div class=3D"">
<div style=3D"letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align:
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;
white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap:
break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space;
-webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D"">
<div style=3D"letter-spacing: normal;
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px;
text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
word-spacing: 0px;
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap:
break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space;
-webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D"">
<div style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 13px;" =
class=3D"">--</div>
<div style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 13px;
min-height: 16px;" class=3D"">Max =
Heim</div>
<div style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 13px;" =
class=3D"">'66 MGB</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<br class=3D"">
<div class=3D"">
<blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">
<div class=3D"">On Jun 17, 2019, at 2:47 PM,
Bert Palte via Mgs <<a =
href=3D"mailto:mgs@autox.team.net" class=3D"" =
moz-do-not-send=3D"true">mgs@autox.team.net</a>>
wrote:</div>
<br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline">
<div class=3D"">
<div class=3D"mail_android_message" =
style=3D"font-family: Verdana; font-size:
12px; font-style: normal;
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight:
normal; letter-spacing: normal;
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px;
text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
word-spacing: 0px;
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
line-height: 1; padding: 0.5em;">Yes, also
over here in Europe it has become less
easily available.<br class=3D"">
If nothing else is available, 10W40 will
do.<br class=3D"">
I use mineral oil. That is good enough,
our cars aren't high tech!<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
Bert<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=3D"">
70 B<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=3D"">
SA4BRL<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=3D"">
PA0LPS<br class=3D"">
--<span =
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Sent from my Android phone with GMX Mail.
Please excuse my brevity.</div>
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12px; font-style: normal;
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normal; letter-spacing: normal;
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px;
text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
word-spacing: 0px;
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
line-height: 1; padding: 0.3em;">On
2019-06-17, 23:19 dave via Mgs <<a =
href=3D"mailto:mgs@autox.team.net" style=3D"color: rgb(149, 79, 114);
text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"" =
moz-do-not-send=3D"true">mgs@autox.team.net</a>>
wrote:
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"margin: 0.8ex 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;
border-left-width: 1px;
border-left-style: solid;
border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204);
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<div class=3D"WordSection1" style=3D"page:=
WordSection1;">
<div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">I=E2=80=99ve
been using Valvoline 20w 50 full
synthetic for several years now, and
it used to be immediately available
from Amazon with free =
shipping. It
has zddp.</div>
<div class=3D""><br =
class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder">
</div>
<div class=3D""> <br =
class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder">
</div>
<div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Now
its 1 to 2 months.</div>
<div class=3D""><br =
class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder">
</div>
<div class=3D""> <br =
class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder">
</div>
<div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">However
=E2=80=93 Advanced Auto Parts -<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><a =
href=3D"https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/valvoline-vr1-racing-20w-50-fu=
ll-synthetic-motor-oil-1-quart-679082/10069836-P?searchTerm=3Dvalvoline+20=
w-50+full+synthetic" style=3D"color: rgb(149, 79, 114);
text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"" =
moz-do-not-send=3D"true">https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/valvoline-vr1=
-racing-20w-50-full-synthetic-motor-oil-1-quart-679082/10069836-P?searchTe=
rm=3Dvalvoline+20w-50+full+synthetic</a></div>
<div class=3D""><br =
class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder">
</div>
<div class=3D""> <br =
class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder">
</div>
<div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">free
shipping with a minimum order of
$25, which is 3 quarts. You =
can buy
it any number of quarts (from Amazon
it=E2=80=99s a 6 pack), and it=E2=80=99=
s a couple
pennies cheaper!!!</div>
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