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I had massive heating problems when I put a Rover 3.5L V8 into my being
built MGB GT - surprise surprise!!!  One item that was a big help was a
Perma-Cool 2,950 cfm . If my engine failed I could pull the car along
by switching on the fan:-). It looks industrial but by god does it blow !!
Barrie from Barrie
On 5/2/2019 3:24 PM, dave via Mgs wrote:
>
> I was quoted upwards of $400 to recore. Lbcarco has new ones for
> under $300, and there is a guy on ebay out of Knoxville selling them
> for just over $200. Steel/copper of course.
>
> Since my other LBCâ??s also have steel/copper radiators, and electric
> fans, and I do just fine here in Dallas summers, Iâ??m thinking thatâ??s
> the way to go. Iâ??ll take lbcarco products any day. Their stuff is
> great. Iâ??m going to hook up the electric fan to the F switch (and a
> relay). Seems appropriate to me!
>
> *From:*Mgs <mgs-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Barrie Robinson
> via Mgs
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 2, 2019 1:11 PM
> *To:* mgs@autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Mgs] mga radiator
>
> Hello Max,
>
> I hoped you used the special heat transferring paint. There used to be
> one that has something like small chaff in it which was meant to
> improve heat transfer.
>
> Barrie from Barrie
>
> On 5/2/2019 2:01 PM, Max Heim via Mgs wrote:
>
> I was recently quoted $450 to recore a Mk.1 MGB radiator. So it
> has become rather costly. But if you are a stickler for the
> original appearance, and want to insure a perfect fit, I think
> that is how you would want to go.
>
> That said, I wound up with the Moss Motors premium aluminum
> radiator, and it fit fine, and seems to work great. I painted it
> black so it didnâ??t stand out as a foreign object, and canâ??t be
> seen through the grill (this really bugs me when I see it on other
> cars).
>
> --
>
> Max Heim
>
> '66 MGB
>
> On May 2, 2019, at 6:53 AM, David Breneman via Mgs
>
> With what I paid, $100 was a rounding error (and he ended up doing
>
> a lot of work for free, because it was a fixed-price job and
> he's a
>
> perfectionist). But it's not the first time I'd heard of this
> problem
>
> with new radiators. A lot of people complain about cooling
> issues
>
> with their MGAs. I've never had a problem, even with weather in
>
> the 80s. And if it's hotter than that, I overheat long before the
>
> car would.
>
> David Breneman david_breneman@yahoo.com
>
> On Thursday, May 2, 2019, 12:41:14 AM PDT, PaulHunt73
> <paulhunt73@virginmedia.com
>
> Hmmm. With my cynical hat on I'd say that could be a way of
> spending $400
>
> rather than $300.
>
> PaulH.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> > When I got my MGA restored, the mechanic recommended
> rebuilding the
>
> > original radiator rather then buying a replacement, because
> the new ones
>
> > have fewer "tubes" (whatever the actual term is in
> radiator-speak) in them
>
> > than the originals, so there is less surface area for cooling.
>
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<font size="-1"><font face="Arial">I had massive heating problems
when I put a Rover 3.5L V8 into my being built MGB GT - surprise
surprise!!!  One item that was a big help was a Perma-Cool
2,950 cfm . If my engine failed I could pull the car along by
switching on the fan<span
class="moz-smiley-s1"><span>:-)</span></span>.Â
It looks industrial but by god does it blow !!<br>
<br>
Barrie from Barrie<br>
</font></font><br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/2/2019 3:24 PM, dave via Mgs
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">I was quoted
upwards of $400 to recore. Lbcarco has new ones for under
$300, and there is a guy on ebay out of Knoxville selling
them for just over $200. Steel/copper of course.Â
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Since my
other LBCâ??s also have steel/copper radiators, and electric
fans, and I do just fine here in Dallas summers, Iâ??m
thinking thatâ??s the way to go. Iâ??ll take lbcarco products
any day. Their stuff is great. Iâ??m going to hook up the
electric fan to the F switch (and a relay). Seems
appropriate to me!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:windowtext"><o:p>Â </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
style="color:windowtext"> Mgs
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net";><mgs-bounces@autox.team.net></a>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Barrie
Robinson via Mgs<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 2, 2019 1:11 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:mgs@autox.team.net";>mgs@autox.team.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Mgs] mga radiator<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Hello
Max,<br>
<br>
I hoped you used the special heat transferring paint. Â
There used to be one that has something like small chaff in
it which was meant to improve heat transfer.<br>
<br>
Barrie from Barrie</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">On 5/2/2019 2:01 PM, Max Heim via Mgs
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I was recently quoted $450 to recore a
Mk.1 MGB radiator. So it has become rather costly. But if
you are a stickler for the original appearance, and want to
insure a perfect fit, I think that is how you would want to
go. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>Â </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">That said, I wound up with the Moss
Motors premium aluminum radiator, and it fit fine, and
seems to work great. I painted it black so it didnâ??t stand
out as a foreign object, and canâ??t be seen through the
grill (this really bugs me when I see it on other
cars).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>Â </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Max
Heim<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">'66
MGB<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On May 2, 2019, at 6:53 AM, David
Breneman via Mgs <<a
href="mailto:mgs@autox.team.net";
moz-do-not-send="true">mgs@autox.team.net</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">With
what I paid, $100 was a rounding error
(and he ended up doing<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">a
lot of work for free, because it was a
fixed-price job and he's
a<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">perfectionist).Â
But it's not the first time I'd heard
of this problem<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">with
new radiators. A lot of people
complain about cooling issues
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">with
their MGAs. I've never had a problem,
even with weather in <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">the
80s. And if it's hotter than that, I
overheat long before the<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">car
would.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">David
Breneman <a
href="mailto:david_breneman@yahoo.com";
moz-do-not-send="true">david_breneman@yahoo.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A">On
Thursday, May 2, 2019, 12:41:14 AM PDT,
PaulHunt73 <<a
href="mailto:paulhunt73@virginmedia.com";
moz-do-not-send="true">paulhunt73@virginmedia.com</a>>
wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A">Hmmm.Â
With my cynical hat on I'd say that
could be a way of spending $400
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A">rather
than $300.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A">-----
Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A">>
When I got my MGA restored, the mechanic
recommended rebuilding the<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A">>
original radiator rather then buying a
replacement, because the new
ones<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A">>
have fewer "tubes" (whatever the actual
term is in radiator-speak) in
them<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A">>
than the originals, so there is less
surface area for cooling. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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