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Is there a detailed list available of what the MOT looks for on a B?
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> Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2016 22:45:45 +0100
> From: "Hans Duinhoven" <h.duinhoven@planet.nl>
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> I've got two chromed wire wheels, which did not pass the MOT test.
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> There are several lose spokes.
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> All nipples are solid, so is it worth while to replace all spokes (buy =
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> I'm not afraid to do the replacement work myself, as I have experience =
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> many mopeds and bikes.
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> The wheels still are pretty nice.
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> Looking to a spare set of spokes (40 and 20) it seems a complete set =
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> Am I right?
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> From: Max Heim <mvheim@sonic.net>
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> You are right ? a complete set of spokes far exceeds the cost of a new =
chrome wheel. But it?s not difficult to replace individual spokes. I =
have done it many times over the years. And that is definitely cheaper =
than buying a new wheel very time you break a spoke or two. No reason to =
replace them all ? just ones that are broken or noticeably rusted.
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>> I?ve got two chromed wire wheels, which did not pass the MOT test.
>> There are several lose spokes.
>> All nipples are solid, so is it worth while to replace all spokes =
(buy a replacement set)?
>> I?m not afraid to do the replacement work myself, as I have =
experience with many mopeds and bikes.
>> The wheels still are pretty nice.
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>> Looking to a spare set of spokes (40 and 20) it seems a complete set =
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> From: "PaulHunt73" <paulhunt73@virginmedia.com>
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> Same as Max, just replace the ones that need to be. I've had to =
replace single spokes a number of times, always the long ones. You do =
need to unscrew the nipple on an adjacent spoke to be able to swing it =
out of the way to get those back in, and sometimes one on the other side =
as well, it depends on the overall length of the new spoke and how far =
the thickened shank extends. So how much work it is going to be depends =
on whether those adjacent spokes have seized nipples. More info here: =
http://www.mgb-stuff.org.uk/rs.htm#1
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> I've got two chromed wire wheels, which did not pass the MOT test.
> There are several lose spokes.
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> Do they check every spoke when they do the MOT? I can't imagine anyone =
in the US checking for something like that during our 'inspections'. =
Here in NJ, they don't evendo safety inspections any longer, just =
emissions testing.
> Dan D'76B, '65B (both spokeless)Central NJ USA
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chromed wire wheels, which did not pass the MOT test.There are several =
lose spokes.All nipples are solid, so is it worth while to re
> place all spokes (buy a replacement set)?I?m not afraid to do the =
replacement work myself, as I have experience with many mopeds and =
bikes.The wheels still are pretty nice. ?Looking to a spare set of =
spokes (40 and 20) it seems a complete set becomes far too expensive.Am =
I right? ?Cheers, ?Hans Duinhoven71 BGT=20
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> I've never known them check the spokes in the UK, although the test =
does call for it in 1b: http://www.motuk.co.uk/manual_420.htm
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detectable if you do ping or wiggle them.
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class=3D""><br class=3D"">I've got two chromed wire wheels, which did =
not pass the MOT test.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">There are several =
lose spokes.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">All nipples are solid, so is =
it worth while to replace all spokes (buy a<br class=3D"">replacement =
set)?<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">I'm not afraid to do the replacement =
work myself, as I have experience with<br class=3D"">many mopeds and =
bikes.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">The wheels still are pretty nice.<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Looking to a =
spare set of spokes (40 and 20) it seems a complete set becomes<br =
class=3D"">far too expensive.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Am I =
right?<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Cheers,<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br =
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class=3D"">You are right ? a complete set of spokes far exceeds the cost =
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spokes. I have done it many times over the years. And that is definitely =
cheaper than buying a new wheel very time you break a spoke or two. No =
reason to replace them all ? just ones that are broken or noticeably =
rusted.<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">?<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Max Heim<br class=3D"">mvheim@sonic.net<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D"">On Dec 7, 2016, at 1:45 PM, Hans Duinhoven via Mgs =
<mgs@autox.team.net> wrote:<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">I?ve got =
two chromed wire wheels, which did not pass the MOT test.<br =
class=3D"">There are several lose spokes.<br class=3D"">All nipples are =
solid, so is it worth while to replace all spokes (buy a replacement =
set)?<br class=3D"">I?m not afraid to do the replacement work myself, as =
I have experience with many mopeds and bikes.<br class=3D"">The wheels =
still are pretty nice.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Looking to a spare =
set of spokes (40 and 20) it seems a complete set becomes far too =
expensive.<br class=3D"">Am I right?<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Cheers,<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Hans Duinhoven<br =
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<paulhunt73@virginmedia.com><br class=3D"">To: "Hans Duinhoven" =
<h.duinhoven@planet.nl>,<span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" =
style=3D"white-space:pre"> </span><mgs@autox.team.net><br =
class=3D"">Subject: Re: [Mgs] Wire wheel replacing spokes<br =
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class=3D""><br class=3D"">Same as Max, just replace the ones that need =
to be. I've had to replace single spokes a number of times, always =
the long ones. You do need to unscrew the nipple on an adjacent =
spoke to be able to swing it out of the way to get those back in, and =
sometimes one on the other side as well, it depends on the overall =
length of the new spoke and how far the thickened shank extends. =
So how much work it is going to be depends on whether those =
adjacent spokes have seized nipples. More info here: =
http://www.mgb-stuff.org.uk/rs.htm#1<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">PaulH.<br class=3D""> ----- Original Message ----- <br =
class=3D""> I've got two chromed wire wheels, which did not pass =
the MOT test.<br class=3D""> There are several lose spokes.<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""> All nipples are solid, so is it worth =
while to replace all spokes (buy a replacement set)?<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""> I'm not afraid to do the replacement work myself, as I =
have experience with many mopeds and bikes.<br class=3D"">-------------- =
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class=3D"">Message: 4<br class=3D"">Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2016 12:27:36 +0000 =
(UTC)<br class=3D"">From: Dan DiBiase <d_dibiase@yahoo.com><br =
class=3D"">To: Hans Duinhoven <h.duinhoven@planet.nl>, =
"mgs@autox.team.net"<br class=3D""><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" =
style=3D"white-space:pre"> </span><mgs@autox.team.net><br =
class=3D"">Subject: Re: [Mgs] Wire wheel replacing spokes<br =
class=3D"">Message-ID: =
<2009046745.443967.1481200056669@mail.yahoo.com><br =
class=3D"">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Do they check every spoke when they do the MOT? I can't =
imagine anyone in the US checking for something like that during our =
'inspections'. Here in NJ, they don't evendo safety inspections any =
longer, just emissions testing.<br class=3D"">Dan D'76B, '65B (both =
spokeless)Central NJ USA<br class=3D""><br class=3D""> =
From: Hans Duinhoven via Mgs =
<mgs@autox.team.net><br class=3D""> To: mgs@autox.team.net <br =
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several lose spokes.All nipples are solid, so is it worth while to re<br =
class=3D""> place all spokes (buy a replacement set)?I?m not afraid to =
do the replacement work myself, as I have experience with many mopeds =
and bikes.The wheels still are pretty nice. ?Looking to a spare set of =
spokes (40 and 20) it seems a complete set becomes far too expensive.Am =
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-0000<br class=3D"">From: "PaulHunt73" =
<paulhunt73@virginmedia.com><br class=3D"">To: "Dan DiBiase" =
<d_dibiase@yahoo.com>, "Hans Duinhoven"<br class=3D""><span =
class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre"> =
</span><h.duinhoven@planet.nl>, <mgs@autox.team.net><br =
class=3D"">Subject: Re: [Mgs] Wire wheel replacing spokes<br =
class=3D"">Message-ID: <44FACE80F0D54D8C83D2B83B91F2C2ED@paul><br =
class=3D"">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">I've never known them check the spokes in the UK, although =
the test does call for it in 1b: =
http://www.motuk.co.uk/manual_420.htm<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">An ex-MOTer pal says it is a visual only (like on BMW spoked =
alloys) although a very keen tester may ping them - all 240/320 of them. =
In my experience when they break the break is inside the hub, so =
only detectable if you do ping or wiggle them.<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">PaulH.<br class=3D""> ----- Original Message ----- <br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""> Do they check every spoke when they do =
the MOT? I can't imagine anyone in the US checking for something like =
that during our 'inspections'. Here in NJ, they don't even<br class=3D""> =
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class=3D"">I find they either break just below the head (inside the hub, =
as you said) or on the threaded end just outside the nipple (where they =
often rust), and this is usually only when you are trying to adjust =
them.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">--<br class=3D"">Max Heim<br =
class=3D"">mvheim@sonic.net<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br =
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2016, at 6:06 AM, PaulHunt73 via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net> =
wrote:<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">I've never known them check the =
spokes in the UK, although the test does call for it in 1b: =
http://www.motuk.co.uk/manual_420.htm =
<http://www.motuk.co.uk/manual_420.htm><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">An ex-MOTer pal says it is a visual only (like on BMW spoked =
alloys) although a very keen tester may ping them - all 240/320 of them. =
In my experience when they break the break is inside the hub, so =
only detectable if you do ping or wiggle them.<br class=3D""><br =
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spoke when they do the MOT? I can't imagine anyone in the US checking =
for something like that during our 'inspections'. Here in NJ, they don't =
even<br class=3D"">do safety inspections any longer, just emissions =
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