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And the ultimate winners are . . . the coil!
Kudos to Mitchell Andrus and Jeff Sienkiewicz. However, I think the
original problem was a combination of fuel and coil. But after replacing
the float needles and blowing out the fuel line it still would not even
try to start -- until I put in a new coil. Purred like a kitten on the
first turn of the starter. I guess I have to learn what the difference
is between a weak spark and a good spark.
Many thanks to all who gave me guidance in my despair! It is wonderful
that many folks take the time to share their wisdom and experience. I
feel like I am part of an MG "Borg" ( a collective cyber/biologic hive
intelligence for you non Star Trek fans).
Almost forgot to applaud Bill Bussler as well for his condensor and coil
vote!
At 02:10 PM 5/3/2016 -0500, Robert Guinness wrote:
"While on a long drive in the hinterlands of KY in my 1960 MGA with
a 3-main 1800 MGB engine, I nearly ran out of gas after about 170
miles that day. I found a gas station and refueled (the gas had
alcohol and I usually run non-alcohol gas). About 30 miles later,
the car started to lose power and then quit. Figured it was a
clogged fuel line, but fuel was pumping out of the fuel line at the
rear carb and there was gas in both float bowls. Cleaned out both
float bowls. Had spark from the coil and to all plugs. Had just
replaced spark plugs and gapped them to spec two days previously.
Regapped points (1 year old 25D distributor). Nothing. Sprayed
starting fluid in the carbs. Nothing. Locals towed me back to town.
Locals played with wires under the bonnet at the coil as I politely
batted them away. As a last ditch effort, I advanced the timing and
it caught at high revs! Drove a few miles, but lost power as I
accelerated and stopped. Stripped and reattached coil wire to
harness. Started, drove a couple of miles, faded, and stopped.
Towed it home. At home, it started reluctantly. It drove for a
couple of miles and it faded and quit. Gas in rear carb float bowl
but no gas at the front carb float bowl. Blew air from fuel pump
back to gas tank with audible air flow at the gas tank. Replaced
the float bowl needle and seat at the front carb. Fuel pumping
nicely at both front and rear carbs. Have spark from the coil and
to all plugs. Static timed. Nothing, doesn't even try to catch. I
do not have a fuel filter other than stock sleeve in the fuel pump.
No odd sounds. I am stupefied ( except for the possibility of
clogged jets, but if so why wouldn't it start with starter fluid).
If it is the coil or condensor, why am I getting spark? Why would
advancing the timing get it to go at such high revs that one time,
but normal timing gives you nothing at all, not even a spit? Do I
have a cam flat spot problem? How have I angered the British
engineering gods? Any hints or diagnostic suggestions? I have also
posted to the MG experience folks"
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And the ultimate winners are . . . the coil! <br>
<br>
Kudos to Mitchell Andrus and Jeff Sienkiewicz. However, I think the
original problem was a combination of fuel and coil. But after
replacing the float needles and blowing out the fuel line it still
would not even try to start -- until I put in a new coil. Purred
like a kitten on the first turn of the starter. I guess I have to
learn what the difference is between a weak spark and a good spark.
<br>
<br>
Many thanks to all who gave me guidance in my despair! It is
wonderful that many folks take the time to share their wisdom and
experience. I feel like I am part of an MG "Borg" ( a collective
cyber/biologic hive intelligence for you non Star Trek fans).<br>
<br>
Almost forgot to applaud Bill Bussler as well for his condensor and
coil vote!<br>
<br>
<blockquote>At 02:10 PM 5/3/2016 -0500, Robert Guinness wrote:<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote>"While on a long drive in the hinterlands of KY in my
1960 MGA with a 3-main 1800 MGB engine, I nearly ran out of gas
after about 170 miles that day. I found a gas station and
refueled (the gas had alcohol and I usually run non-alcohol gas).
About 30 miles later, the car started to lose power and then quit.
Figured it was a clogged fuel line, but fuel was pumping out of
the fuel line at the rear carb and there was gas in both float
bowls. Cleaned out both float bowls. Had spark from the coil and
to all plugs. Had just replaced spark plugs and gapped them to
spec two days previously. Regapped points (1 year old 25D
distributor). Nothing. Sprayed starting fluid in the carbs.
Nothing. Locals towed me back to town. Locals played with wires
under the bonnet at the coil as I politely batted them away. As a
last ditch effort, I advanced the timing and it caught at high
revs! Drove a few miles, but lost power as I accelerated and
stopped. Stripped and reattached coil wire to harness.
Started,
drove a couple of miles, faded, and stopped. Towed it home. At
home, it started reluctantly. It drove for a couple of miles and
it faded and quit. Gas in rear carb float bowl but no gas at the
front carb float bowl. Blew air from fuel pump back to gas tank
with audible air flow at the gas tank. Replaced the float bowl
needle and seat at the front carb. Fuel pumping nicely at both
front and rear carbs. Have spark from the coil and to all plugs.
Static timed. Nothing, doesn't even try to catch. I do not have a
fuel filter other than stock sleeve in the fuel pump. No odd
sounds. I am stupefied ( except for the possibility of clogged
jets, but if so why wouldn’t it start with starter fluid). If
it
is the coil or condensor, why am I getting spark? Why would
advancing the timing get it to go at such high revs that one time,
but normal timing gives you nothing at all, not even a spit? Do I
have a cam flat spot problem? How have I angered the British
engineering gods? Any hints or diagnostic suggestions? I have
also posted to the MG experience folks"</blockquote>
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<div class="WordSection1">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="mso-fareast-font-family:
"Times New Roman"">Robert Guinness</span><span
style="mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman""><span
style="color:black"></span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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