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Re: Radiator Fans (was Re: Miata seats)

To: "mgs" <mgs@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: Radiator Fans (was Re: Miata seats)
From: "Bob D." <bobmgtd@insightbb.com>
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 22:45:54 -0000
I've had the same experience with Water Wetter, no improvement. Maybe this
is because my brand of antifreeze already has "wetter" in it. Perhaps it
helps when you're using straight water. BTW, don't use straight water
without some "rust inhibitor/water pump lube" additive.

Bob Donahue (Still stuck in the '50s)
Email - bobmgtd@insightbb.com
52 MGTD - NEMGTR #11470
71 MGB - NAMGBR #7-3336


----- Original Message -----
From: <jello@ida.net>
To: "Barrie Robinson" <barrier@bconnex.net>; "Barney Gaylord"
<barneymg@MGAguru.com>; "Paul Root" <proot@iaces.com>; "MonteMorris"
<mmorris@nemr.net>; "MG list" <mgs@autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: Radiator Fans (was Re: Miata seats)


> I've used Water Wetter, and my experience is that you are correct.  It did
> virtually nothing.  Some people swear by it, but I saw no change.  The
> best change I've seen so far has been using the proper thermostat with a
> bypass blockoff - but I haven't used that in the summer yet.
>
> FYI, though, water wetter is a surface tension breaker.  But you should be
> able to do the same thing with one drop of dishwashing detergent.
>
> Phil Bates
> '58 MGA
> '67 MGB
>
> > Somewhere I read of a test of Water Wetter - It said it did nothing to
> > help.  My school chemistry is a bit vague but I would like someone to
> > explain why it works - I sort of wonder if it is in the same class as
> the
> > "magnetic fuel saver" thingy that "disperses" hydrocarbon clusters as
> > advertised on the JC Whitney catalog (disperses? - yes, right!).  The
> only
> > thing that I can think of is that it reduces the surface tension but
> such
> > action would give only minute benefit!   And advertising means nothings
> > either - just look at the STP stuff with endorsements all over the
> place -
> > and it does nothing apparently.
> >
> > One thing I can remember is that anything dissolved in water will
> increase
> > the boiling point of the water.  I believe this also applies to colloids
> > but not sure if it is to the same degree
> >
> > At 11:26 AM 4/25/2003 -0500, Barney Gaylord wrote:
> > >At 07:33 AM 4/25/03 -0500, Paul Root wrote:
> > > >....
> > > >You might want to think of some Water Wetter, or running a weaker mix
> of
> > > >anti-freeze. As we've discussed before on this list, anti-freeze
> actually
> > > >lowers the boiling point of water. It's the rust inhibitors you  want
> most.
> > >
> > >Sorry, but someone needs to correct that statement pronto.  Mixing
> > >permanent antifreeze into water actually increases the boiling point of
> the
> > >coolant.
> > >
> > >It does however decrease the specific heat of the fluid, meaning that
it
> > >will carry less heat energy for a given temperature rise.  This means
> that
> > >the coolant temperature may have to run a little higher to carry away
> > >enough heat to keep the engine cool if the cooling system is marginal
> and
> > >cannot handle the heat flow within the thermostat temperature limit.
> > >
> > >Barney Gaylord
> > >1958 MGA with an attitude
> > >http://MGAguru.com
> >
> > Regards
> > Barrie

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