Hi bob, hi all,
thanks bob for the voice of reason. I whole heartedly agree.
I also feel that i should set the record straight after a mail i recieved
today. in short something wierd has been going on behind the scenes, which
cast the guy who wrote to me in a more favourable light.
Firstly this whole thing seems to stem from somethign written in the "guns
and cars" thread, which for some reason he thought i had written. I was
particularly irked to receive the message i did out of the blue, if i had
gone and opened my big mouth and offened somebody i might have deserved a
dressing down off-list. HOWEVER, I never wrote a mail in the "guns" thread,
and in fact i checked back through the archive, and i think i can be quite
sure that i have kept any political views to myself over the last few months
So i HAD been putting the whole thing down to some sort of glitch and honest
mistake.
However, it turns out that the guy who wrote to me got another reply, again
apparently from me, which by all accounts was somewhat personal in tone.
Again, I can safely say that I did not send that e-mail: "manners maketh
man" is a motto which i try very hard to live by. I have written back to the
guy who sent me the original post, and explained the situation: that i did
not send any of the messages he has received; that I really have no idea
what is going on; and that i can see two scenarios to explain this
situation.
1: either we are the victim of some glitch whereby segments of his
conversation with a third party has somehow got copied to me
2: we are both the victim of a malicious prank whereby someone is sending
him inflamatory mails and somehow making them somehow appear to come from
me.
In either case it seems to me that both the guy who originally wrote to me,
and myself for that matter, are blameless in this matter, and i would quite
frankly like to stop wasting time and energy on it.
thanks everyone for your time.
cheers
joe
_________________
Dr. Joseph Garner
Department of Animal Science,
University of California,
One Shields Avenue,
Davis,
CA 95616
USA
tel: + 530 754 5291
fax: + 530 752 0175
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob Shaw [mailto:shaws@mlcltd.com]
> Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000 8:12 PM
> To: Garner, Joseph P.; MG list (E-mail)
> Subject: Re: Unsolicited hate mail...
>
>
> At 7:59 PM -0700 7/30/00, Garner, Joseph P. wrote:
> >Hi Everyone,
> >
> >I hope no-one else has received similar e-mails from this
> person, and if you
> >have, i hope me forwarding the message below to the list
> will galvanise us
> >to keep our community as friendly and respectful as i have
> found it to be in
> >the past, and not to tolerate this kind of behaviour.
> >
> >Thanks everyone,
> >
> >cheers
> >
> >Joe.
> >
> >_________________
> >
> >Dr. Joseph Garner
> >Department of Animal Science,
> >University of California,
> >One Shields Avenue,
> >Davis,
> >CA 95616
> >USA
> >
> >tel: + 530 754 5291
> >fax: + 530 752 0175
> >_________________
> >
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: thepilot [mailto:thepilot@home.com]
> >> Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2000 2:38 PM
> >> To: JPGarner@UCDavis.Edu
> >> Subject: (no subject)
> >>
> >>
> >> This is an MGB site, not a political soap box to spew
> your unsolicited
> >> liberal shit. By the way, you forgot to mention the many
> great and
> >> wonderful things that Americans have done. Drive what you
> >> want, go where
> >> you want and do what you want, However your opinions about
> >> automobiles
> >> (not MGB's) are just about as wanted as your other
> bullshit comments.
> >> Please, go away, find some left wing political self
> >> absorbing site and
> >> speak with any of the other like minded people. Just
> leave our site
> >> alone!
> >>
>
> Well Joseph,
>
> Ive been on this list off and on for the last 5 years or so. I do not
> reply too often these days, as I usually find someone else has
> answered, so there is no need to subject everyone to the double dip.
> This is especially true when their answers are better than what I
> would have given. I tend to look at this list as an international
> neighborhood, hence I tend to avoid the political most of the time.
> However, I also recognize that this list is international in flavor
> so it seems to me that such jingoistic ramblings are impolite. A
> careful study of the history of technology tells us that when the
> conditions are right, meaning society and technology reaching a given
> point, things happen around the world at about the same time. Hence
> there will be debates about where something was invented and who did
> it first. An example would be the French and the U.S. about who
> invented the aircraft first. A similar example would be that Cecil
> Kimber and Louis Meyer were beginning to make race cars about the
> same time.
>
> I think most of us, right or left side of the political spectrum,
> love cars. Good cars, no matter their point of origin, interest most
> of us. Through accident or design, most of us have settled on MGs as
> a favorite. But most of us would spend an afternoon looking at
> hotrods, NASCAR race cars or sports cars.
>
> As a psychologist, I generally feel a bit sorry for one so threatened
> by opinions that differ from one's own. One of the purposes of this
> list is to share information. I think it safe to say that most of us,
> on most subjects, want pretty much the same things in life, we just
> do not agree on the best way to achieve them. I also think that most
> of us are understanding that those with whom we disagree are merely
> that, not some mortal enemy.
>
> I have gotten a bit wordy, for which I am sorry. But please do not
> stop writing your views. Just do it politely. I believe this list is
> about learning. The best way to learn is to get different information
> and consider it, and this list surely facilitates that process. YMMV
> --
> Bob Shaw
> Check out Shaw's Garage at http://www.mlcltd.com/shawsgarage/
> My British Car is NOT leaky - it's merely marking its territory.
>
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