Hi Geoff,
Well, IMHO I wouldn't do that... The gurgling was probably pressure being
released past a blockage, and it just so happens that the gas ran through
the tank making a gurgling noise... it doesn't mean that the tank is the
problem. like other people have said this system is useful. it is also
simple... just trace the blockage... if necessary replace all hoses, get new
carbon pads... etc etc etc.. but it should cost a minimum of time and money
to sort out yourself.
The ood thing as you call it is just a little tank. check that you can blow
in one end and out the other and you know it's working properly, then find
the real fault!
hope that helps
cheers
Joe.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Geoffrey Gallaway [mailto:geoffeg@sloth.org]
> Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2000 9:42 PM
> To: Garner, Joseph P.
> Cc: 'mgs@autox.team.net '
> Subject: RE: Gurgling Sound coming from back of car
>
>
> Ok, so I realize what I am about to suggest is "illegal" and
> that I could
> go to prison for the rest of my life for altering the
> emissions system...
>
> If I just de-attach both hoses from the Odd Thing in the back
> of the car,
> connect them with a small section of pipe (obviously bypassing the Odd
> Thing), will I be allright in that department?
>
> AFAIK, the fuel cap is venting but hey, I'll replace is with
> a new venting
> one just for the fun of it. The spring on the clutch peddal popped off
> tonight and although I can't feel much of a difference, it
> wouldnt hurt.
>
> The car never fails to start (sometimes it can take quite a bit of
> cranking, 10 or 20 seconds) but it does get worse after I have been
> driving it and when its hot out...
>
> How do I remove the other emissions systems on the car? :)
>
> Geoff
>
> This one time, at band camp, Garner, Joseph P. wrote:
>
> > Hi Geoff,
> >
> > Aha! One I actually know the answer to!
> >
> > Let me guess. The car won't start after you have been
> driving it. The
> > problem is a lot worse in hot weather, or if the car is
> left in the sun?
> >
> > It's that bloody silly smog system again. Unburnt petrol
> vapour is adsorbed
> > in the mysterious absorbtion canister thingy (or pair,
> depending on model),
> > and supposedly returned to the carb to be burnt, or back to
> the fuel tank
> > via the strange little tank on the inside right of the boot.
> >
> > If you have any kind of blockage/impediment in the fuel
> return line, then
> > the car vapour-locks, and won't start. These blockages can
> be of many kinds,
> > including
> >
> > -a blocked/broken vent cap on the tank (you do have a
> venting cap on the
> > tank, rather than a non-venting DPO replacement?).
> >
> > -crud in the vapour line between the fuel tank, and the
> funny tank in the
> > boot, or crud in the little tank (sorry no manual, can't
> remember the proper
> > terms), or crud in the line between tank and resorbtion canister.
> >
> > -rotted out hoses (petrol vapour does bad things to rubber
> over the years)
> > that have either collapsed on the inside or kinked. This
> was my problem.
> > 10cents for a new bit of hose, and i NEVER had the car fail
> to start again
> > (well from this problem anyway). There is hose in the boot,
> and hose running
> > from the absorbtion canister to the vapour line itself. The
> latter has to
> > make a sharp short turn, so i'd check that first.
> >
> > IMHO, YMMV, etc, my advice would be to first check for
> kinked/rotted hoses
> > in this system. replace as necessary. check the vent cap.
> If these aren't
> > your primary problem, at least you have cleared up any
> secondary confusing
> > problems. Next time the car fails to start, take the petrol
> cap of the fuel
> > tank, if you get a big hiss of pressure this is probably
> the problem...
> > replace the cap and try again. if it starts now, then you
> know that your
> > problem is probably the cap. There are lots of places along
> the system where
> > you can unhook a hose, allow any built-up pressure to
> escape, reattach the
> > hose, (ALLOWING ANY PETROL VAPOUR TO DISAPPATE FIRST OF
> COURSE), and try
> > starting the car. this should allow you to physically
> locate the section of
> > the system which is blocked. If it appears to be a section
> of vapour return
> > line, then disattach the line at BOTH ends and blow it through with
> > compressed air. Take great care not to blow compressed air
> through any line
> > attached to the fuel pump or the fuel pump will die.
> >
> > I hope that helps... as with any work on the fuel system be
> extremely
> > careful with petrol vapour and sparks etc.
> >
> > incidentally what are the symptoms of buggered adsorbtion
> pads... Max,
> > Laurie, Ed? No obvious jokes please.... that's my department!
> >
> > ;-)
> >
> > cheers
> >
> > Dr. Joe
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Geoffrey Gallaway
> > To: mgs@autox.team.net
> > Sent: 7/22/00 11:25 AM
> > Subject: Gurgling Sound coming from back of car
> >
> > Some people may know of my fuel starvation problems with my 70 BGT.
> > While
> > sitting in a parking lot, waiting for someone today, it
> died as usual. I
> > didn't attempt to turn it back on since I didn't know how
> long it would
> > be
> > till the person arrived. About a minute after it had died, I heard a
> > gurgling sound come from the back right of the car for a
> few seconds.
> > Once
> > the person arrived and I started to drive, the fuel
> starvation problem
> > was
> > absolutely horrible, dying at almost every light and taking a few
> > seconds
> > to start again. Now, I know there is a large metal cannister in the
> > right
> > back of the car (where the gurgling sound came from). What does this
> > cannister do and what might it have to do with my car dying and why
> > would
> > it make a gurgling sound? If it is the cause of the problem, can I
> > remove
> > it, fix it or do I need a new one?
> >
> > Thanks for the advice,
> > Geoff
> >
> >
>
> --
> Geoffrey Gallaway || Violence is only for those who have run
> out of good
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