Dan,
This discussion might die out on its own if it were not for certain
persons consistently using inflammatory phrases like "tree huggers" and
"Green Pease (sic) Bull Shit". Please, all parties, try to keep the
discourse polite. Of course, some of us wonder how you can admit that "we
all are guilty of pollution" and at the same time refer to the problem as
"bull shit". That seems intellectually contradictory, at least. But I'm
willing to drop it.
Max
(Paid-up member of GreenPeace)
Dan Dwelley had this to say:
>Hey!!! Look at my earlier posts before you barade me!
>My point was to the tree huggers that we are ALL guilty of pollution!!!
>Freaken read the posts...SLOWLY IF YOU MUST!!!
>
>NOW...CAN WE PLEASE START TALKING ABOUT LBCs AGAIN!!
>
>Dan Dwelley
>Tired of all of this GREEN PEASE BULL SHIT!!
>
>On Tue, 23 May 2000 15:32:13 -0400, Barrie Robinson wrote:
>
>> Ever thought why Mexico and other foreign countries "spew chemicals".
>Well
>> it's because they are hard at work making plastic toys to be sold at
>> hamburger joints, carpet material for SUVs, plastic lawn chairs, garden
>> gnomes, gasoline, hi-fi equipment, huge plastic toys for children that
>> would prefer to play with sand, paint, disposable cameras, dishes and
>cups,
>> lawn chemicals, pool chemicals, electric this and electric that, and
>> endless "goodies" all to be consumed by the "I'm holier than thou"
>> countries. You consume - you pollute!!!! So do not blame "those other
>> guys" - they are satisfying our non-stop wants.
>>
>> At 10:45 AM 5/23/00 -0700, Dan Dwelley wrote:
>> >Ok...Lets take a step back.
>> >Generally, people gravitate to one side of the spectrum or the other.
>The
>> >term Tree hugger or do gooder basically is a stereo-type for the
>extreme.
>> >I think we all agree that there are poisons in the air and on the ground
>> >that are bad for us.
>> >I don't think someone experimenting with their car is going to make a
>> >calculable difference in the environment. Mind you, I'm not saying break
>the
>> >law...just try what ever you feel is reasonable.
>> >If we expect to make a difference in the environment, then focus the
>> >attention on energy providers and foreign countries that spew chemicals
>into
>> >the air without regulation...like Mexico, etc.
>> >I personally don't want or need anyone trying to make me feel guilty
>about
>> >the environment. I do my part but I also like my LBC...so...I'm off to
>spew
>> >more blue smoke into the air.
>> >Oh...If I were to go to the extreme and become a hipocrite...I'd say
>> >everyone who drives a car or uses a petroleum burning product OR
>by-product
>> >created from the burning of a petroleum product is guilty of poisoning
>the
>> >air. <---Sounds stupid doesn't it...reality people...we're all guilty so
>> >stop sitting on your high horse adn lets get back to talking about
>LBCs!!!
>> >
>> >Dan Dwelley
>> >77 Midget (Pollution Provider)
>> >Alexandria, Va.
>> >On Tue, 23 May 2000 09:13:26 -0400, Barrie Robinson wrote:
>> >
>> >> I rarely rise to such dialogue but I am, and if I that makes me a
>> >do-gooder
>> >> then so be it. I love the way so many people turn a blind eye to
>> >their
>> >> particular interest be it cars, gardening, snowmobiles, camping,
>> >> mountaineering, holidays abroad or disgusting SUVs. If the rapidly
>> >> encroaching poisons of the earth are not REVERSED then ta-ta
>everybody -
>> >> thankfully I will not be here when the bhit hits the fan - but my
>> >> grandchildren will and that makes me mad! Anyone reading this could
>half
>> >> their output of pollution, and that includes garbage, by exercising
>just
>> >a
>> >> little thought.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> At 04:43 PM 5/22/00 -0700, Max Heim wrote:
>> >> >Frankly, I think they are all eligible for a big fat fine, and
>> >deservedly
>> >> >so. Lead is a poison, is absorbed in the tissues, and is
>particularly
>> >> >damaging to developing bodies. Just because you as an adult don't
>think
>> >> >you are being damaged breathing lead-containing fumes at your
>autocross,
>> >
>> >> >doesn't excuse you for exposing other persons, possibly including
>young
>> >> >children and/or pregnant women, that might be nearby or just
>downwind.
>> >> >This is not a question of "tree-huggers" -- think of it as an
>example of
>> >
>> >> >greedy corporations using a profitable but dangerous method of
>> >increasing
>> >> >octane until finally stopped by public outcry over the increasing
>amount
>> >
>> >> >of scientific evidence.
>> >> >
>> >> >Fine, scoff at "do-gooders"... you would probably have enjoyed
>eating
>> >> >chalk and arsenic in your bread, and rat feces in your hot dogs (to
>> >> >mention a few instances of consumer protection)... how would you
>like
>> >the
>> >> >air in the "Great Northwest" to look like LA? or Houston? or Mexico
>> >City?
>> >> >
>> >> >(I'm sorry, these "dittoheads" make me sick)
>> >> >
>> >> >End of rant...
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >Dave Wood had this to say:
>> >> >
>> >> >>Thanks Dan,
>> >> >>
>> >> >>I bit my tongue and decided not to respond. Out here in the great
>> >North
>> >> >>West some of us have a real problem with tree huggers. My problem
>is
>> >with
>> >> >>do-gooders in general...Most of the autocross and rally cars out
>here
>> >go to
>> >> >>the smaller airports to get aviation gas instead of mixing boosters
>in
>> >with
>> >> >>regular gas and wondering what the final octane will be.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Dave 72 B
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >--
>> >> >
>> >> >Max Heim
>> >> >'66 MGB GHN3L76149
>> >> >If you're near Mountain View, CA,
>> >> >it's the red one with the silver bootlid.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Regards
>> >> Barrie Robinson
>> >> barrier@bconnex.net
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >Dan Dwelley
>> >77 Midget
>> >Alexandria, Va.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>>
>> Regards
>> Barrie Robinson
>> barrier@bconnex.net
>>
>>
>
>
>Dan Dwelley
>77 Midget
>Alexandria, Va.
>
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