Hey Matt,
I used the Honda reference because I myself have been driving a Honda Accord LXI
since 1988. Yes it's a great car. But it won't live 30 years.
Too expensive. Check out the price of rebiulding a motor.
Paul Tegler
1973 BGT - Daily Driver
Rat - 1980 Spitfire w/ O/D - in re-hab
Punkin' - 1978 Spitfire - in Superb Shape!
email: wizardz@toad.net http://www.teglerizer.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Pringle <pringlmm@mcmaster.ca>
To: wizardz <wizardz@maxinter.net>
Date: Friday, August 27, 1999 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: Dont knock my LBC bud! I'd Worry about your's! Re: (was : Shame on
CU )
With all due respect.....
I think that there are alot of good things you can say about LBC's but
to propose that, given the same level of attention, any LBC can outlive
a Honda is, in my humblest opinion, a little wishful.
The two reasons (I believe) that one sees more LBC's than say old Honda
civics and accords is that (i) the former are collector's items and the
later, well, ain't and (ii) spare parts for LBC's are cheaper and more
plentiful than any other production car except maybe bugs.
In the ten years and 275 000 km's on my accord, I have never had to do
anything but scheduled maintenance, replace wear items and replace a bum
relay. I have all the confidence that if I choose to (and I may just
yet given my attachemnt to the old girl) I can keep her running for as
long as I can torque a nut.
wizardz wrote:
>
> When ever someone 'puts down' my LBC's...
> I simply retort with ....
> "I'd like to see if your 'Honda' is still on the road in 30 years!"
>
> A new more recent thought concerning 'new' cars...
> Being an electronics and robotics design engineer for more than
> 25 years now, I see the rapid rate in which the electronics industry
> outdates and stops producing different integrated circuits ('chips')
> I predict most of the 'new' cars out there today won't be on the road
> 15-20 years from now...because the on board computers won't be
> able to be repaired!
>
> And guess what people! Many are going to have problems next year
> with idiot lights that won't turn off (maintainance schedules etc)
> because of the computer clocks post dating 2000!
>
> Paul Tegler
> 1973 BGT - Daily Driver
> Rat - 1980 Spitfire w/ O/D - in re-hab
> Punkin' - 1978 Spitfire - in Superb Shape!
> email: wizardz@toad.net http://www.teglerizer.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ATWEDITOR@aol.com <ATWEDITOR@aol.com>
> Cc: mgs@autox.team.net <mgs@autox.team.net>
> Date: Friday, August 27, 1999 10:48 AM
> Subject: Re: Shame on CU
>
> In a message dated 8/26/99 8:02:56 PM, phbailey@earthlink.net writes:
>
> << Bob Howard wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 26 Aug 1999 06:46:04 -0700 patrick bailey
> > <phbailey@earthlink.net> writes:
> > snip-- would surely be>bad- mouthing MGs after his experience,our cars
> > have a bad enough reputation among the general public - snip
> > >Pat
> > >
> > This week's Newsweek (Bill Gates on the cover) has an article on hot
> > wheels now or soon to be in the US market. "...Miata, a roadster that
> > evoked a bygone era of Triumphs and MGs, minus the huge repair bills" is
> > from the article. Once you read the glowing reviews, check out the advert
> > on p.4 to get an idea of their judgment.
> > Thoughtful of these guys to slander our 25+ year old vehicles.
> > Question--has anyone really _had_ a "huge repair bill" or is this a
> > perception caused by the annoying little repairs that get under one's
> > skin?
> >
> > Bob
>
> I couldn't agree more these cars are really more reliable and cheaper to fix
> than new cars I feel the reputation is NOT deserved but has grown by people
> who wern't likely to work on the cars themselves and didn't do the required
> maintenance.It's funny but I usually get 2 responses when people comment on
> my MG (1) Neat car! (2) I used to have one (or brother,uncle etc) and he had
> nothing but trouble with ityadda yadda.I've had both my '79 B and my wifes
> '89 Aerostar for 5 years(I had to get her the van so Icould get the B) and I
> have spent over $2500 in repairs on the van $1400 tranny,$450 new flywheel,
> $200 brakes TWICE !! plus other stuff and right now the starter just went
> out!!Now on the B I'll bet I haven't spent $500 on repairs clutch MC and
> slave $125 radiator $250 u-joints $45 So which car has been more reliable?
> Also I,ve put over 50,000 miles on the B in those 5 years.New cars ARE
> generally more reliable than old cars BUT when something does go wrong they
> cost a hell of a lot more to get repaired.I love explaining this to the clods
> who bad-mouth LBCs.The problem as I see it today is that people aren't
> "motorists"anymore they just want a car to get from A to B as quickly as
> possible without any problems they look apon cars as appliances We on the
> other hand are a dying breed who take the road less traveled look at our cars
> as friends who enjoy the open road I swear my car seems to like the
> twisties!!It just seems to run better than when flogging it on the
> freeways!When is the last time you heard of someone just going on a sunday
> drive?Now everyone has to going someplace and the drive is just an
> inconvience.When I was akid we went on sunday drives and didn't have a
> destination just went for the adventure!I still do this I never know where
> I'll end up and the lure of the open road is still out there for those of us
> who seek it. >>
>
> When my 68 B-GT was t-boned by a Pontiac in '78 after 10 years of good
> although some times irritating service (read:electrics), I got a BMW 2002. A
> delight to drive when in shape, this car was a major education in how much a
> person can pay to fix a car, especially a German car. After about three
> years and mucho dinero I sold it, and just in time according to a BMW
> aficionado who came to look at it. The rear shock towers in the trunk were
> beginning to rust, leading inevitably to a major, major sheet metal repair
> job.
> The next European car I bought was my 72 B. Ah, its good to have a car you
> can understand most of the time.
>
> J Donoghue
> 72B
> 66 Mustang
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