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Re: Springs and things

To: wizardz <wizardz@amdyne.net>
Subject: Re: Springs and things
From: Carl Elliott <grunt2@adelphia.net>
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 16:44:38 -0500
Iput in new  7 leafs and did the dodge colt shock conversion at the same time,
Then I installed rubber bumper front coils , They are heaver due to added
weight of rubber bumper and mounts ect. Car is level rides and handles real
nice its a 73 BGT.  Carl E.

wizardz wrote:

> I went through this wil Moss as well but did get a correct spring for my 73
> GT the second time. The length of each of the 7 leafs were much shorter on
> the second set, thereby letting the car settle down to a ride hieght of
> 13.5" to match the front. The first set of 7 leafs Moss sent put my ass end
> up at 15.2"
> I added a lowering block to the first set which brought it back down to a
> resaonable 14.0" but the ride was just too.... juoncey (yes jouncey not
> bouncy, meaning short sharp rebounds but controlled.)
> when I put on the second set (shorter length leaves).. The ride is PERFECT!
> the car is perfectly level at 13.5" +/- 1/4"
> and OB rides beautifully
>
> ----------
> > From: Jack Emery <jemery@mint.net>
> > To: mgs@autox.team.net
> > Subject: Springs and things
> > Date: Saturday, January 02, 1999 6:15 PM
> >
> > Many B's, many springs.  My '67 V-8 roadster has evolved to the following
> > setup.  CB GT front coils with HD lever arms, 3/4 front sway bar, V-8
> > bushings and more or less stock '67 ride height.  In the rear I am using
> 6
> > leaf CB rdstr springs with tube shocks (colt) and more or less stock ride
> > height.  The car weighs less than 2100 pounds and handles reasonably
> well.
> > Tires are 185-70 Michelins on 14x6 Panasports.  Under violent
> acceleration
> > in low gear it will "basketball" the rear tires.  Under hard braking no
> > wheel bounce occurs.
> >
> > The prior setup in the rear was AHC31 7 leaf GT springs with Monroe tube
> > shocks (G10).  It rode hard but hooked up real well.  Drop the clutch and
> 2
> > black stripes.  But....under hard braking it would bounce the rear wheels
> > and under hard cornering the rear would float laterally and allow tire
> > rubbing.  It also had a touch of roll steer.  And it rode hard.
> >
> > I believe the reason for the 7 leaf springs faults lie in the fact that
> > they are rubber bumper springs.  Moss only sells one set of GT springs,
> and
> > they are marked AHC31.  I am not sure where Bob Ford gets his.  They
> supply
> > these for CB cars but the springs have 1 1/2 inches too much arch for a
> CB
> > car.  You will wait many moons for those suckers to sag to CB height.  I
> > fabricated a 1 inch lowering block, but the arch causes all sorts of
> > geometry issues.  For maximum lateral strength the spring should be FLAT.
> >
> > The hot setup IMHFO is the MGC roadster 6 1/2 leaf spring.  Yep, the 1/2
> > leaf is on the leading end of the spring to control wrap up and wheel
> hop.
> > The same spring was used in factory 8's.  I have a used pair that I will
> > clean and redo with poly sheet between each leaf, spring project for
> Spring
> > time.
> >
> > Poly bushings in northern New England will break every weld in the
> > suspension.  Our roads suck.  Hence the springing for ride and handling,
> > the car is much faster with all wheels on the ground.  Also, heim joints
> in
> > a street car are money wasted up here.  The "traction master" type bars
> > would eliminate my wheel hop but they transmit road noise and break
> mounts.
> >
> > Jack Emery
> > Glenburn Maine
> > '67 MGB V-8
> > many others


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