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Re: Brake bleeders and master cylinders (was Re: Ups and Downs)

To: Jay and Mike Hartwig <mhartwig@cbu.edu>
Subject: Re: Brake bleeders and master cylinders (was Re: Ups and Downs)
From: Art Pfenninger <ch155@freenet.buffalo.edu>
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 13:10:40 -0500 (EST)
A pressure bleeder would be the exception to the fancy bleeders. I was
refering to the Mity Vacs and the likes of them. When I hear the name Snap
On I think big bucks but it is possible to make your own pressure bleeder.
...Art

On Mon, 7 Dec 1998, Jay and Mike Hartwig wrote:

> 
> 
> Art Pfenninger wrote:
> > 
> > Chris, I would suggest that you adjust the rear brakes and re-bleed it
> > again. Sometimes it can take hours to do the job and quarts of fluid but
> > in the end it always seems to work. If you are using a fancy brake bleeder
> > this could also be your problem.
> > ...Art
> 
> Art and all, do you guys believe the fancy brake bleeders are bad?
> As I peruse the Porsche mailing lists that I am subscribed to, I am
> hearing good things about the Sanp-On and various other brake bleeders,
> aside from the maligned Mityvac system.  The advantage to a bleeder is
> that you do not need to press your brake pedal down to the floor to
> begin bleeding.  The listers claim this is bad on the master cylinder,
> since it moves it to positions that it never regularly explores and may
> harm the seals.  I don't think this would be a problem with a master
> cylinder in good shape, but I could be wrong.
> 
> Anyway, the Snap-On bleeders are basically caps that you put on the
> brake fluid reserve tank, and then air pressure FORCES fluid into your
> sytem.  This eliminates any need for pressurizing the system, and I
> would think, this would be an excellent way to ensure no air in
> entrained.  I would imagine you could bleed a whole system in one quart
> of fluid, and provided your seals and bores are in good shape, you
> should have a strong pedal.
> 
> On another note, I've been frequenting my local machine shop lately
> overseeing the work on the motor for my Porsche.  Things are going very
> well, but the best thing about this machine shop is the fact that the
> owner is a car nut.  He'll take time out just to show me my motor and
> its progress and also show me his shop.  One thing that was interesting
> was his statement that a master cylinder or like can be resleeved AND
> will be stronger than the original part.  This was indeed interesting,
> as I am one who is willing to throw the part away and buy new if I can't
> rebuild.  No more!  Besides, the expense of Porsche parts requires that
> I be more frugal.  From now on, whether P-car or M-car, I will research
> the expertise of my local machinist.  This could save time, money, and
> save parts from the trash can.  A WIN-WIN situation for all, given you
> have a competent machine shop (many times incompetence outnumbers
> competent).
> 
> Sorry for the long wind in my chest, but I wanted to share some things I
> feel strongly about.
> 
> Jay
> 


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